Spanish Intervention in Imjin War

I barely can wait to see more of Japan. I sincerely hope for her resurgent. But also I hope that in this world Koreans and Japanese will end up as equals ITTL, and being in that state for as long as possible.
 
I would like to see a chapter focused on east indies ;)

And I'm actually kinda want to know more about the spread of Jiao faith within the Islamic world, especially in Ottoman Empire.
 
A very interesting timeline that was thought up here.

I got interested in it since it involved Korea (I was there as an ESL teacher from 1996-2005), but I never thought I would ever see anything like the Ch'ŏn Empire emerge from Chosŏn Korea! :eek:

I hope it is continued.
 
I really should get back to it. I may have to actually reread the whole thing myself actually, to get my head back into the mindspace.
 
OK, I have some stuff I had half written that I have polished up. A bit short, but I couldn't figure out what else to combine this with.

Ireland in the early 18th century

With the end of English domination of the island and the eviction of most of the English speaking population from the plantations and former Pale the country had been transformed. It was seen as necessary to remove all evidence of English presence, and thus at both an official and an unofficial level there was a near complete revival in the dominance of the Gaelic language and culture. The old English plantations were completely dismantled and redistributed among newly minted Irish lords, particularly those who had conducted themselves most effectively in expelling the English. However, there was also a general desire to be seen as a "civilized" part of the Catholic world, and so this period saw the beginning of the transformation of Irish society from a stateless, clan-based Gaelic structure to a state-governed society, more like found elsewhere in Europe. The government went through many changes, and the Irish parliament was eventually moved back to Drogheda where it had traditionally met. The replacement of the French monarchy with a Catholic republic did little to harm relations with Ireland, and indeed provided a model for which the Irish republic would evolve. The Irish leader, which had been called a number of names including the Irish Taosiech, was renamed as "Consul" in imitation of the French.

The need to secure an economic independance from Britain encouraged the development of a merchant marine, which first operated under the protection of the French navy but later shifted into cultivating a similarly productive relationship with the Spanish. As it grew, parts of Ireland became deforested to supply the merchant marine and the modest Irish navy with timber (it should be noted, however, that the process of deforestation was significantly more drastic for Britain, with it's much larger fleet). The Irish economy was largely based on agriculture and fishery, though as the population grew more agricultural products were consumed domestically rather than exported. Salt beef, pork, butter, hard cheese, vegetables and marble was sold to the French, Spanish and throughout the Caribbean. Irishmen made famous pirates and mercenaries, while muscling into the slave trade and occupying a prime position for trade with the Spanish after recieving control of the Bahamas (direct trade between the Irish Bahamas and Cuba was, by Spanish law, illegal. It was, however, completely condoned and even protected by the Spanish navy). The awkward social position of the "Old English" had the result that a disproportionate proportion of Irish mercenaries, pirates, slavers and emigrants to the New World would be of Palesmen descent.
 
The move of Brandenberg into the colonial and trade race was a bold move but a reasoned one. Brandenburg, the most powerful Protestant state on mainland Europe could not challenge the established powers in Europe itself. Wars over religion had died down: the balance of power between the French-dominated Catholic sphere, the Ottoman-dominated Protestant sphere and the Triple Union behemoth saw a Central Europe in a tense and stable peace. With war a somewhat distant possibility, Brandenburg's Hohenzollern rulers neglected their standing army and instead devoted energy to their navy and merchant fleet. An alliance with the Swedes and a war against Denmark in the Baltic saw a temporary chance for complete domination in this region but a threatened Triple Union intevention led to a treaty wherein the Swedes and Brandenburgers were permitted permanent toll-free access through the Song, but Denmark did not lose any territory. For true wealth and power, the Brandenburgers would have to look further afield, to the Asian and African trade.

The Brandenburgers captured the French fort of Saint-Louis (renamed Friedichsburg) and the island of Gorée (which became known simply as Gore), allowing them access to the Senegal river region and it's bountiful markets of slaves. From these bases were constructed fortified factories to handle the exports of slaves, hides, beeswax, ambergris and, later, gum arabic. that were accessible on the mainland The entire region would be soon known as the Großsklavenküste (Great Slave Coast), and would form the basis of the Brandenburger slave trade to the New World, which mostly went to the Dutch colonies, Virginia, Brasil and the Irish Bahamas (in the latter two cases they were often re-sold onto the Spanish colonies). Slaves were exchanged for American goods or bullion which was then transported back to Europe. In the far south, Kapstadt on the Cape of Good Hope served as a re-supply point and way station for vessels passing between Brandenburg and the East and slowly began to develop into a settler colony in it's own right. Designs on the Portugeuse colonies in southeast Africa came to nothing, as a Portugeuse fleet built up through Brasilian gold defeated a Brandenburger expeditionary force.

Brandenburg started off as a small fish in a big and competitive pond when it came to South East Asia. In this area they confronted not only the established Western powers of the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain but also the powerful Asian powers: the Ottoman Empire, the Jinshen and the Cheon. The Brandenbergers, though, possessed access to a key resource that gave them a quick advantage over their competitors: amber. In Dashi Jiao temples of Jinshen, heated oil of amber was utilized as a fragrance during daily prayer sessions, and as access to Northern European amber increased this usage spread throughout the Dashi temples throughout Southeast Asia. Brandenbergs position soon allowed them to dominate the supply of amber from Europe and convert this into purchasing power in southeast Asia. It also translated into friendlier relations with the Jinshen and allowed the Brandenbergers access to Jinshen trade routes and connections that had been out of reach for Westerners.

The Brandenbergers targeted the weakest European power in the region: the Dutch. The East India Company having found itself much neglected in favor of it's West Indian counterpart, Dutch possessions in Asia were relatively weakly defended. Brandenberger assaults saw the Dutch lose their territories on Sumatra in 1713 and then finally Batavia itself in 1721. In both circumstances, the Brandenberger attacks were assisted by the cooperation and intelligence provided by Dashi temples and Jinshen traders in the midst of the Dutch. Batavia was renamed Seigstadt, "Victory City" which was a reference both to the Brandenberger achievement as well as to the city's old Sanskrit name of Jayakarta, meaning "great deed" or "complete victory". This logic was also used by the Jinshen, who dubbed the new city Shengshi (胜市) carrying a similar meaning, and quickly established themselves as a major presence in the city. The pattern of Brandenburger expansion in the region was hand-in-hand with the Jinshen thallasocrats, with Brandenburger ships and ambition meeting with Chinese expertise and local knowledge. Brandenburg and the Jinshen cooperated in a struggle against the alliance of Brunei and Maguindanao, which cowed the former and saw the latter stripped of it's influence in the Visayas and forced into a tributary status with Heijing. Out of that arrangement, Brandenburg recieved the island of Zubu [Cebu] as a trading port.

As the Brandenburgers took over Dutch possessions they were able to diversify into other markets by removing competitors. The Brandenbergers moved quickly into the glass market, a natural complement to the amber trade that further enhanced relations with the Jinshen. Brandenberg replaced the Ottomans as the chief transporter of Bohemian glass to Asia, and also cultivated a domestic glass industry by attracting French glaziers (the Christian Republic opposed the glass trade out of moral and religious reasons, which was the death knell for a French glassmaking industry already damaged from Dutch attacks). Cowed from their defeat in Africa, the Brandenbergers maintained a policy of non-interference with the Portugeuse, and in return the Brandenbergers secured both cooperation in India as well as permission to supply slaves to Brasil.



The ships of Brandenburg
 
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I have just finished reading this whole TL...one of the best that describes the Far East history in much detail.
In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I demand you to restart writing this TL. :D
 
I have just finished reading this whole TL...one of the best that describes the Far East history in much detail.
In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I demand you to restart writing this TL. :D

I know that you're relatively new here, but necromancy is heavily frowned upon on this forum, so try not to do it again. The exact definition is vague, although the time period is around six months to a year, and it's been over a year and a half since the last post, not to mention that the author of this timeline hasn't been particularly active recently.

If you want to restart discussion continuing this TL, you should probably create a new thread instead.
 
Of course. Totally my mistake.
I thought this thread was going on a really original track, though.
It had very intriguing ideas and concepts and I wanted to see keep going.
Anyways.....
hope somebody keeps up the good work that was going on in this TL.:(
 

elkarlo

Banned
bah i wanted a Hideyoshi Japan-wank :(

It would be a mess of things, and just like every Asian nation Europeans tried to trade with, the europeans would try to invade
And most likely win
So the daimyos, if they don't get united, would be vulnerable to Spanish or Portuguese greed

Haha me too. Great story though.


Don't think the Iberians can do much besides back a side. Doubt they can seize anything
 
This might be a bother, but is there a concise version of this TL?

And what's going on in Colombia/Venezuela thus far?
 
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