Spain annexing Portugal?

It did happen (although before 1900).
Afterwards I see little chance, ecept mybe if communists win the Spanish Civil War and then get into a war with Portugal.

Republicans win civil war, and turn their eyes into 'freeing Portugal from the brother of Franco'.... Aka Salazar.
 
We always hear about how Britain's oldest ally is Portugal, and whilst I'm unsure whether they would, Spain could well be getting a DOW from the UK if they tried it.
 
We always hear about how Britain's oldest ally is Portugal, and whilst I'm unsure whether they would, Spain could well be getting a DOW from the UK if they tried it.

Britain actually never did much for Portugal, I was told... it was kinda one-sided as alliance.

But yeah, if communists in the Republicans gain more power.. yes.. they WILL act.
 
Perfectly aware of that, it's why I posted the thread in this subforum.
One of the conditions Franco presented Hitler in order to join the Axis was to allow him to annex Portugal. Since Franco didn't really want to join WW2 (and deliberately demanded too much) I don't know how realistic was this plan.
 
One of the conditions Franco presented Hitler in order to join the Axis was to allow him to annex Portugal. Since Franco didn't really want to join WW2 (and deliberately demanded too much) I don't know how realistic was this plan.

How about the years of conflict between monarchists and republicans (let's say 1908-19, though you'd know better)? Could the House of Bourbon decide to remove the potential menace to it?
 
How about the years of conflict between monarchists and republicans (let's say 1908-19, though you'd know better)? Could the House of Bourbon decide to remove the potential menace to it?

Someone wrote a timeline like that 7 years ago.

After the Republican Revolution in 1910 and the Carnation Revolution in 1974 is when there were rumours that the Spanish could invade. Nothing but rumours. Although... I read somewhere that Alfonso XIII did state publicly his wish to incorporate Portugal into Spain.
Anyway... in both situations the Portuguese republican and democratic revolutions were a menace to Spain's own, respectively, monarchic and francoist regimes.
 
I thought it was the Falangists who wanted to annex Portugal. I do not belief that Franco ever tried that sort of thing. He wanted to first deal with the things where he gained his fame, Morocco, before anythign big like that.
 
Year is 2009:

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/inte...ica/Espana/elpepuint/20090728elpepuint_12/Tes


http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/36784/portuguese_ponder_forming_federation_with_spain/

Make Spain having a more capable government dealing better with Economic Crisis (remove 11-M and make the PP government to make measures to cope with the Residential Bubble...) and more portuguese would be willing to.
Those kinds of news and polls are just meant to piss off people like me! :)
40% is more than just a stretch, of course, but I can easily believe in 2-digit numbers thanks to sour grumpy people complaining about the economy. ;)
They would even more easily vote to become the 51st state of the US.

Anyway, after both countries turned democratic and joined the EU it's unlikely we see a Spanish annexation of Portugal.
 
I thought it was the Falangists who wanted to annex Portugal. I do not belief that Franco ever tried that sort of thing. He wanted to first deal with the things where he gained his fame, Morocco, before anythign big like that.

He knew better. Entering WW2 just after the Civil War would eventually reduce the already shattered country to dust.
 
He knew better. Entering WW2 just after the Civil War would eventually reduce the already shattered country to dust.

Indeed. The Falangists nagging for Portugal, Gabon, and Cameroon annoyed Hitler to the point where he began to few the Republican workers and soldiers working for the Germans to have not been actual communists (which very few were for the most part) and that they had been fighting against a theocratic fuedalism of the sort that he despised. Hitler eventually taking the Portugeuse and Spanish islands off of Gabon and in the North Atlantic would go slightly smoother if he was dealing with a government he set up. With a tad bit more loyalty.
 
It did happen (although before 1900).
Afterwards I see little chance, ecept mybe if communists win the Spanish Civil War and then get into a war with Portugal.

It was more of a Dynastic personal Union than an annexation ( although they did invade the country ) ... In the 20 th century is ASB ... even a communist hardliner ruler will have not tried to invade it ... any right wing hardliner would laugh too ...


Make Spain having a more capable government dealing better with Economic Crisis (remove 11-M and make the PP government to make measures to cope with the Residential Bubble...) and more portuguese would be willing to.

I´m sorry to say that the Bubble did exist when PP was governing and they did nothing ( not that they could manage the economy even intentionally as bad as the actual one, though )
 
The best chances for a successful Spanish invasion and annexation of Portugal would be during the Civil war, if the Republicans win, or during WW2 if Franco joins the Axis.
In the first case, it could garner some support among the old Republican "left", but everyone else would oppose and that could make it a bit costly.
In the second case, it would be easier militarily, especially with German support but the support would be reduced to the more extreme right-wing elements of Salazar's regime and remaining National-Syndicalists, and the annexation would be undone at the end of WW2.
 
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