SOVIET-POLISH war in 1935.

Did the entente powers even have an agreement with Poland in 1935 (I'm thinking France may have, pretty sure Britain didn't.) Even if they do it'll surely be a defensive pact and won't call for support in the case of aggression.

Also, the Franco-Soviet Pact has just been signed/is in the process of being signed, so don't expect any help for Poland from the West!
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i am very serious. The most of repressions comanders(generals and marshals) wasnt very talanted.

Yes, but that's only because he killed so bloody many of them. It's very different to saying that most of them were killed because of their political affiliation or because they had ambitions of toppling Stalin. The vast majority of the tens of thousands killed may not have been brilliant commanders, but there were even fewer who were politically 'dangerous' to the regime. Most of them were simply victims of the insane paranoia of one man.

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Where's the money coming from? Where are the arms needed to equip tens of new divisions coming from at such short notice?
 
I've foundd that in 1st Srptember 1939 polish ambassador said, that there were 3.5 million of men in Polish Army.
Where's the money coming from? Where are the arms needed to equip tens of new divisions coming from at such short notice?
Where's money in 1920?:)
 
3.5 millions soldiers in Polish Army? WTF? Its 1/10th of ENTIRE population of Poland! I don't see more than 1.5 million army...
 
And what good would antique equipment be, if it even exists and is in working order, not to mention arsenals from three different nations with completely different standards of ammo, spares, etc.?


Also Stalin's slaughter of so many Red Army officers had nothing to do with actions or opinions on the victims' part and everything to do with his own murderous paranoia. The truth of the matter is that after 17 years of Stalin's leadership in arming and industrializing any rational German leader, as opposed to the bigot Hitler, would have destroyed the USSR.
 
3.5 millions soldiers in Polish Army? WTF? Its 1/10th of ENTIRE population of Poland! I don't see more than 1.5 million army...
it is their oficial position at the beginning of the war. Only in Germany there were 1 milion captured poles; In USSR-450 thouthands
 
You can't take some dubious single statement and turn it into a fact. All sources give c. 1 milion soldiers
yeah-because Poles goverment need acquittal at first, and then Poland was Soviet Ally-so USSR supported this theory. But, mobilisation began in march 1939(when a pact about non-aggression was abolished), yeah full mobilisation began in 30th August-but PA could have minimum 2 millions of men.
 
Theres an excellent timeline that explores a very similar concept.Its called Shattered World.I forget the url but you can google it .
 

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It was not the 20s any more, Poland was far from the military power of Eastern Europe. They wouldn't dare attack anyone without allies (fearing a sudden alliance of USSR, Germany and Lithuania).
 
Originally Posted by Prem_Rack
You can't take some dubious single statement and turn it into a fact. All sources give c. 1 milion soldiers
yeah-because Poles goverment need acquittal at first, and then Poland was Soviet Ally-so USSR supported this theory. But, mobilisation began in march 1939(when a pact about non-aggression was abolished), yeah full mobilisation began in 30th August-but PA could have minimum 2 millions of men.
F.e, in USSR about Soviet army-only new tanks and new aircrafts were set on, when it as compared with Wehrmacht.
It was not the 20s any more, Poland was far from the military power of Eastern Europe. They wouldn't dare attack anyone without allies (fearing a sudden alliance of USSR, Germany and Lithuania).
main anwere-not could they or couldnt, but their goverment's opinion.
 

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Sorry, but any Polish aggression against USSR in the 30s are so ASB. Poland knew they wouldn't win an offensive war without allies, and Poland would not get any allies by being the aggressor. In 1935 it slowly became clear that Germany was a potential threat again. As I said the worst case scenario was that if Poland launched an unprovoked attack all Poland's enemies would gang up on them. Therefor the Polish leaders would not dare to attack.
 
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