Soviet Controlled Paris.

This I read once in a comic depicting Alternate History stuff.

In one volume, there was talking about a divided Paris, instead of a divided Berlin. North Paris was in hands of the Soviets and South Paris was in hands of the Americans.

What are your thoughts about it?
 
This I read once in a comic depicting Alternate History stuff.

In one volume, there was talking about a divided Paris, instead of a divided Berlin. North Paris was in hands of the Soviets and South Paris was in hands of the Americans.

What are your thoughts about it?



Paris? oh we we. but the Soviets getting to Paris? D-Day must've failed.
 
i doubt the allies would let the soviets keep it....itd be just replacing nazi germany with the ussr...theres no way theyd let them past the rhine at least
 
As far I know the division of Germany and eastern Europe save Poland going to to the soviets was already decided upon. Lets say for some odd reason that doesn't happen, by time the Allies and Soviets met one another, the Soviet economy was pushed to the brink. The Soviets would have to fight their way through the Rest of Germany and hope that if they decided to enter France and the Low Countries the people there aren't desperate enough to force them back. So it could possible, if the soviet economy and military force wants to go down the crapper.
 
As far I know the division of Germany and eastern Europe save Poland going to to the soviets was already decided upon. Lets say for some odd reason that doesn't happen, by time the Allies and Soviets met one another, the Soviet economy was pushed to the brink. The Soviets would have to fight their way through the Rest of Germany and hope that if they decided to enter France and the Low Countries the people there aren't desperate enough to force them back. So it could possible, if the soviet economy and military force wants to go down the crapper.

Obviously there would be a serious POD to get to this scenario.

I thought the OP was asking more what would it be like?

Seems like you would need Vinchy France to be a more serious ally, in order for France to be divided up like Germany.

Maybe no Free French at all? Or a chance for the Vinchy to really prove their worth?
 
Reminds me of an old Cold War joke:

Two Russian Tank generals were at a Paris bar when one turns to the other," I wonder who won the airwar?"
 
A Soviet aligned communist France is likely to be an interesting creature to say the least. French communism had a distinct French blend and if some figures like Sartre are still alive in such a TL, it could gain philosophical overtones which would likely make it a unique creature in the eastern bloc. I would not be surprised if a communist France would push "modern" culture and such to the forefront, something which may in due time create a split within the communist bloc.
 
I don't think this is logistically possible; you're talking about supplying a frontline thousands of kilometers from Soviet territory, with hundreds of kilometers of rail lines to be converted.
 
I don't think this is logistically possible; you're talking about supplying a frontline thousands of kilometers from Soviet territory, with hundreds of kilometers of rail lines to be converted.
ja its not i do believe the sowjets were damn near their logistical end after taking (old) prussia.

They maybe able to push a little further into germany, but i doubt they'd try.
 
Maybe with a combination of:

- no free france
- germany is divided between communist south and allied occupied north
- veeeeeery limited size of communist france

you could end up with something like this with Paris stradling the border:

split-france.jpg
 
Maybe with a combination of:

- no free france
- germany is divided between communist south and allied occupied north
- veeeeeery limited size of communist france

you could end up with something like this with Paris stradling the border:

Not bad, and not quite the Warsaw Pact wank I at first assumed.
 
FDR dies, and is replaced by someone who doesn't give a snot about liberating Europe from the Reich. Maybe the isolationist in the White House will cite conflict with Japan as a reason to focus on "one war at a time," maybe just "it's across the ocean, in another world altogether" plus no guts or gumption for righteous action.


Or, for whatever reason, D-Day fails, is undermined, or is postponed "indefinitely" for vague reasons, and the Soviets roll over Germany and push further "in hot pursuit of the fugitive Nazi regime" and occupy a very, very handsome chunk of France.

Because the Soviets are a tad stretched at this point, De Gaulle wangles some British and American support (some of the latter is private, fwiw!) and the Free France pick-up team holds onto a chunk of France for themselves.

In exchange for their piddling support, the Americans insist on a grand role in safeguarding Free Paris as a "line in the Seine" for Democracy and Freedom, and, yes, you more swarthy folks kindly use the "colored" water-fountain, please.
 
Well, I didn't knew there would be such a conversation for such a question! I didn't knew this was such a heavy subject!
 
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