South America in a Axis-US Cold War

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Hypothetically speaking if the Axis were able to win in Europe in a scenario were the US were not to be involved in WW2, what does that mean for Latin America in the resulting Cold War?

Let's say for argument's sake that the USSR is still around, but is badly crippled and the European Axis and USSR have a border roughly along the Brest-Litovsk+modern Belarus line and both alliances have their militaries locked down along the border region. Britain was never conquered, but reached a peace deal in 1941, so is official neutral. Her empire has pretty much fallen away by 1950, with some regions of Africa still being retained. Canada and Australia are in the US orbit, while South Africa is friendlier with the Axis. Japan did not enter the war, preventing the US from joining in, instead early the British exit from the war allowed Japan to break the US trade embargo through trade with Europe and Britain (who was eager to keep Japan neutral), so stays focused on China. So Japan is still around, controlling Korea, Manchuko, and Indochina, but is still fighting a guerilla war with China, who was never officially defeated. The Communist Chinese though are ascendent in China and the USSR is helping supply them.

India and Pakistan are independent and have competing Axis-American-Communist influences, as does Persia and the Middle East. Turkey is falling in the Axis economic orbit, though not an official member.

What happens to South America though? IOTL it was a hotbed of US-Soviet competition, but here the Soviets are focused on Eurasia and Africa. The Axis are the only ones with the soft power projection to influence South America, which has a fair number of fascist types to buddy up to the Axis. What about Cuba and Mexico? Do they (or at least rebels) look to the Axis to counter US influence on their economies?
 
I expect that Germany is helping some of the S American dictatorships but at the same time US is heavily involved there to. Anything near Panama gets active US response.

Michael
 

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I expect that Germany is helping some of the S American dictatorships but at the same time US is heavily involved there to. Anything near Panama gets active US response.

Michael

I think anywhere where there is a German minority gets German influence. That means Chile and Argentina for sure, Brazil is anti-German/pro-US.
Not sure about anyone else. I know the Germans and Mexicans had some significant economic ties, not sure about politics though. Cuba is potentially a wild card IMHO. If Casto still rises, I don't know if he is enamored with the Axis, but the National Socialists did have ideological socialist elements that might mesh with Castro.
 

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I think anywhere where there is a German minority gets German influence. That means Chile and Argentina for sure, Brazil is anti-German/pro-US.

Brazil would be playing everyone to stay independent, the US would be financing death squads, and Nuns would be an endangered species in South America.

As for Mexico, the PRI knew better than to piss off the American administration of the period.
 
As what most Argentine posters here in AH.com, Argentina would not be at the Axis side, in case of an hypothetical Axis-US Cold War as the Argentine political establishment and the military except from some fringes supports the Allied cause.

I don't think any South American country would be flirted to the Axis side because of the American's enormous economic and political influence in their respective countries. Probably, Latin America in general would be a better off region as if the Axis won in Europe, the Marshall Plan would have been spent in Latin American countries instead.
 
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