Somebody a part from america takes the Philippines

About a penal like Colonies... DOnt know.. some minor island(marianas) can work, but let say like a forced exile can work for some troublesome minorities in exchange of good conduct(and some island with the local language like serb)....

The congo can happen with certain butterflies(ie a more amigable Britain with germany, some quick movement after Leopold II Scandal) but is tossing a coin(who can be rigged)

And yes Philippines will give some profits after the initial inversion, don't forget the monopoly of Hemp or Manila for letter,XD

All Kaiser Wilhelm II has to do is to avoid antagonizing Great Britain and they could become close allies. Also, would a strong army be the German legacy in the Philippines?
 
All Kaiser Wilhelm II has to do is to avoid antagonizing Great Britain and they could become close allies. Also, would a strong army be the German legacy in the Philippines?

Yes here will be butterfly galore thus you can choose the way you want, keeping realism.

More than a Strong Army... a wholde different culture.. if they treat the Philippines more like a big plantantion but benvolent.. a better focus in education and civil service, some of german language and culture will proper

but if is treated as a settlement colony(and keeping profits) is pretty easy they will want to become a german lander in the future. having already a culture than africa and with trade and commercial streght. both Independance and Integration lobbies will competed hard.

In general... one thoushand better than with the United States colonial influence
 
Yes here will be butterfly galore thus you can choose the way you want, keeping realism.

More than a Strong Army... a wholde different culture.. if they treat the Philippines more like a big plantantion but benvolent.. a better focus in education and civil service, some of german language and culture will proper

but if is treated as a settlement colony(and keeping profits) is pretty easy they will want to become a german lander in the future. having already a culture than africa and with trade and commercial streght. both Independance and Integration lobbies will competed hard.

In general... one thoushand better than with the United States colonial influence

So I'm guessing someone like Wilhelm of Prussia or one of the Kaiser's sons would become the Governor General of the Philippines then? I'm sure the Germans could open up the Philippines to anyone fleeing from religious persecution. Assuming the Russian Revolution still breaks out, would the Germans be happy to shelter those anti-communists or would the Bolsheviks be butterflied as well?
 
So I'm guessing someone like Wilhelm of Prussia or one of the Kaiser's sons would become the Governor General of the Philippines then? I'm sure the Germans could open up the Philippines to anyone fleeing from religious persecution. Assuming the Russian Revolution still breaks out, would the Germans be happy to shelter those anti-communists or would the Bolsheviks be butterflied as well?

Hey this men is perfect for the job: Wilhelm Solf, he not only become samoa something who the samoans remeber with fondess(about how the prussian values and education were the best thing for the island) but even help to keep the local culture and itegrated with german language.. thus a model administrador.

Or Heinrich Albert Schnee who did a similar job in East Africa and was the partner of von Lettow vorbeck, but can be used it in Kongo if you want a german Kongo.

Again the WW1 and thus all the event who happen is butterfly sensitive... but the main thing the german want as colonist is people who know how to behave and promote the german, maybe some people who want escape and try the tropical life will found a chance...

In general with Philippines, you can change the population from East Afrika to here, and will be more profitable, all are options
 
Hey this men is perfect for the job: Wilhelm Solf, he not only become samoa something who the samoans remeber with fondess(about how the prussian values and education were the best thing for the island) but even help to keep the local culture and itegrated with german language.. thus a model administrador.

Or Heinrich Albert Schnee who did a similar job in East Africa and was the partner of von Lettow vorbeck, but can be used it in Kongo if you want a german Kongo.

Again the WW1 and thus all the event who happen is butterfly sensitive... but the main thing the german want as colonist is people who know how to behave and promote the german, maybe some people who want escape and try the tropical life will found a chance...

In general with Philippines, you can change the population from East Afrika to here, and will be more profitable, all are options

Schnee could be appointed as governor of Mittleafrika, while Wilhelm Solff could be appointed as governor of Deutsche Ostindischereichs, or whatever they call it. Maybe WWI could be avoided if the Germans can persuade the Austro-Hungarians to restrain their activities, and maybe pulling a 2009 Lost Memories stunt like capturing Gavrilo Princip alive even before he shoots Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

(2009 Lost Memories is a Korean sci-fi alternate history movie about a Japanese Empire that retained Korea through 2009, the PoD is Ito surviving an assassination attempt, but through an ASB)
 
Schnee could be appointed as governor of Mittleafrika, while Wilhelm Solff could be appointed as governor of Deutsche Ostindischereichs, or whatever they call it. Maybe WWI could be avoided if the Germans can persuade the Austro-Hungarians to restrain their activities, and maybe pulling a 2009 Lost Memories stunt like capturing Gavrilo Princip alive even before he shoots Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

(2009 Lost Memories is a Korean sci-fi alternate history movie about a Japanese Empire that retained Korea through 2009, the PoD is Ito surviving an assassination attempt, but through an ASB)

Ummm.. as i Say before... all the thing are butterfly sensitive. in general lets say that germany catch the Philippines in the first year of Wilhelm II, then we have a new colonial policy with Britain(change some spot for another) and then when the Free State Crisis Happen, some more appasement with British and French(ie South west afrika for South Afrika and Promise of not much militarization) can obtain the Kongo free state.

And yes with a whole geopolitical, the crisis of the 1910 will happen differently thus not ww1 or one completly diferent(ie only French-Russia-Serbian and minors vs Dual Alliance or triple with the ottomans and minors), that is other chance

And yes i know that Korean film, start pretty well, then the ASB strike(in the flim.. our TL is the asb one,XD) that killed the film, that is natural with the Korean Revisionism...

In general some ideas can be used.. hey why don't make a cooperative TL?

Att
Nivek von Beldo

P.S.1. What is a Tundun?

P.S.2. You know some of spanish?
 
Well that goes without saying, though that may not stop a rich and powerful Mexico with an expansionist at the helm from going along with it anyway (the same can apply to any other power). It is a bit of a stretch but not completely ASB from having Mexico take the Philippines.

Well if the Mexicans are going to be occupying the Phillipines, they are going to need some fueling stations. Mexican Hawaii anyone?
 
Ummm.. as i Say before... all the thing are butterfly sensitive. in general lets say that germany catch the Philippines in the first year of Wilhelm II, then we have a new colonial policy with Britain(change some spot for another) and then when the Free State Crisis Happen, some more appasement with British and French(ie South west afrika for South Afrika and Promise of not much militarization) can obtain the Kongo free state.

And yes with a whole geopolitical, the crisis of the 1910 will happen differently thus not ww1 or one completly diferent(ie only French-Russia-Serbian and minors vs Dual Alliance or triple with the ottomans and minors), that is other chance

And yes i know that Korean film, start pretty well, then the ASB strike(in the flim.. our TL is the asb one,XD) that killed the film, that is natural with the Korean Revisionism...

In general some ideas can be used.. hey why don't make a cooperative TL?

Att
Nivek von Beldo

P.S.1. What is a Tundun?

P.S.2. You know some of spanish?

Tundun is another word for Tondo, which was the name of the Kingdom of Tondo, which in itself was a pre-Hispanic Philippine kingdom. Yeah, we should make a coopreative TL on it, except that I already have a TL about it, under El Reino de Ramon Blanco. However, we can make it under either your account or mine.
 
Thanks for the Explanation, and in general, one can do as much TL one want, you can do one with this... I'm interested too. thus send me a PM if you want to cooperate, a need someone about Philippines native history to contrast with my knowledge of European geopoltics, will be interesting.
 
Thanks for the Explanation, and in general, one can do as much TL one want, you can do one with this... I'm interested too. thus send me a PM if you want to cooperate, a need someone about Philippines native history to contrast with my knowledge of European geopoltics, will be interesting.

That's fine. So we've already agreed on the PoD of the thread?
 
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Tundun is another word for Tondo, which was the name of the Kingdom of Tondo, which in itself was a pre-Hispanic Philippine kingdom. Yeah, we should make a coopreative TL on it, except that I already have a TL about it, under El Reino de Ramon Blanco. However, we can make it under either your account or mine.

It is the name of the capital not the Kingdom itself, it was called Tundun by the people nowadays because of it's capital.


I think it is better if the Brits gets a part of it in the 7 years war, I am currently thinking about a timeline about that, I just think a smaller Philippines will be more stable than the OTL one, the Mexicans or a New Spain successor can get it.
 
It is the name of the capital not the Kingdom itself, it was called Tundun by the people nowadays because of it's capital.




I think it is better if the Brits gets a part of it in the 7 years war, I am currently thinking about a timeline about that, I just think a smaller Philippines will be more stable than the OTL one.

Hey kasumi, I've sent you this message and I was wondering if this plausible: on partitioning the Philippines:

- Britain could get Zamboanga and Palawan, while;
- France gets Mindoro, south Luzon and an island south of Batangas;
- Germany gets all of Visayas and northeastern Mindanao;
- America gets southeastern Luzon and the island south of it.
- The Netherlands gets remaining lands in Mindanao;
- Finally, Russia gets remainder of Luzon.
 
Hey kasumi, I've sent you this message and I was wondering if this plausible: on partitioning the Philippines:

- Britain could get Zamboanga and Palawan, while;
- France gets Mindoro, south Luzon and an island south of Batangas;
- Germany gets all of Visayas and northeastern Mindanao;
- America gets southeastern Luzon and the island south of it.
- The Netherlands gets remaining lands in Mindanao;
- Finally, Russia gets remainder of Luzon.

That is unlikely.
I think it is the Brits who could get Luzon and also they can get the trust of it's people by obliterating and destroying the Macabebe scouts and the Spanish allied aristocracy and give them some autonomy and the rest remains with the Spanish, A Philippines not having the rebellious and dominant north and the unconquerable muslims could make an interesting TL that is better than OTL.
 
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That is unlikely.
I think it is the Brits who could get Luzon and also they can get the trust of it's people by obliterating and destroying the Macabebe scouts and the Spanish allied aristocracy and give them some autonomy and the rest remains with the Spanish, A Philippines not having the rebellious and dominant north and the unconquerable muslims could make an interesting TL that is better than OTL.

I'm also thinking that the Philippines could have three major religions instead of two, kinda like Bosnia only much more different.
 
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