Some AH research

Hey everyone ! After a couple of days reading this forum, this will be my first entry on this forum. Right now I'm doing some research for my EU3 mod based on alternate history. Well, my objective is to create a series of mods, each with a different history. I've started the work yesterday, and for the first mod I'm making a world (Europe at least) where the great migrations never happened, there where no goths, vandals, huns, slavs, bulgars, magyars etc., no islam, no caliphate etc. The Roman Empire never splits and Odoacer doesn't exist in this timeline, so The Empire survives as one big country until the XIV century when it crumbles and brakes in various states. Now I would like you to imagine how Europe looks like in 1399, some decades (it's up to you how many decades) after the Fall of the Roman Empire. Any sugestions are welcomed. I would love to see some maps of this Europe or to read some short timelines.
Thank you for your help and excuse any of my writing mistakes because, many of you guessed this by now, english is not my native language.
 
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Hey everyone ! After a couple of days reading this forum, this will be my first entry on this forum. Right now I'm doing some research for my EU3 mod based on alternate history. Well, my objective is to create a series of mods, each with a different history. I've started the work yesterday, and for the first mod I'm making a world (Europe at least) where the great migrations never happened, there where no goths, vandals, huns, slavs, bulgars, magyars etc., no islam, no caliphate etc. The Roman Empire never splits and Odoacer doesn't exist in this timeline, so The Empire survives as one big country until the XIV century when it crumbles and brakes in various states. Now I would like you to imagine how Europe looks like in 1399, some decades (it's up to you how many decades) after the Fall of the Roman Empire. Any sugestions are welcomed. I would love to see some maps of this Europe or to read some short timelines.
Thank you for your help and excuse any of my writing mistakes because, many of you guessed this by now, english is not my native language.
A couple of things:

1) I assume you've read this guy?
2) It essentially looks like you want us to do all the work for you. Now this is likely honest mistake but you might want to phrase things a little differently in the future--etiquette! I promise you I'm not trying to be harsh!
 
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A couple of things:

1) I assume you've read this guy?
2) It essentially looks like you want us to do all the work for you. Now this is likely honest mistake but you might want to phrase things a little differently in the future--etiquette! I promise you I'm not trying to be harsh!

1) Yes I had.
2) The work is almost done ... but I'm modding all alone without a proper "mod team" or something and I just want to hear other opinions, because the "what if" question will never result in 2 guys having one identical point of view.
This never was a "HELP ME!" thread, I just thought I could propose a imagination exercise. And from what I saw in the past couple of days reading some of the timelines and scenarios here, I realized that this forum doesn't lack imagination. And I didn't asked for a 20 page story about the Roman Empire in the X century. A couple of phrases about european cultures, nations, type of units, type of ships etc. Anyway, thank you for posting, because, maybe I didn't made my self very clear in the first post.
 
Well presumably the tribes are breaking against the borders. You can't get rid of movement outside of the empire without ASBs but you can prevent them from breaking into the empire. Of course one of the best ways of doing this would be to establish the Danubian frontier (IIRC). Getting a stable border makes it easier to defend that border, and then you can establish stable vassals outside the empire, and play politics within them. Some of THESE will probably fall to barbarian invasion, but then Rome has the choice of either intervenng to throw them out, or subjugating the new lot and making of them vassals instead.

Thus, Rome in 1399 would be bounded by borders with lines of fortresses, maybe even a Great Wall of Europe. Work out what these borders would be, then you know what the area you have to fracture comprises

Of course, some of the fractured states would fall to outside forces pretty much soon after the central force of the empire finishes.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
I would suggest two culture groups. One in the west, which could be called "Western Roman" or "Latin" and one in the East called "Greek" or "Eastern Roman". This was how it was even at the height of the empire's power. Within these culture groups I would suggest following the old Roman province structure for specific cultures e.g. Gallic, Iberian, Hellenic, Illyrian and so on.

Does Christianity exist in this timeline? If so, there would not have been a great schism yet. You could make a decision and events for a nation (who doesn't control Rome) elevating the Patriarch of their capital to the head of their church, founding Orthodoxy. It would probably be best to mod the reformation so that it affects Orthodox countries too,

If it doesn't, then maybe you could have the cults of different Roman gods be different "religions" in the "religion groups".

Is the rest of the world the same as in OTL or have you changed it?
 
Grey Wolf, as I said there was no barbarian invasion, so there is no need for a Aurelian retreat to the south of Danube.
Talkie Toaster, that's my plan for cultures, but I'm thinking there should be more than just two culture groups.
Christianity exists but there was no schism, and the decision concerning the Patriarch is a good ideea. I didn't decided yet on Reformation. I don't know if I should have a Pope in this mod. And without a Pope there is no Reformation, right ? I mean a Pope like in OTL with the Papal State and the College of Cardinals. I was thinking that in this timeline the Roman Emperor would proclaim himself head of the Church ... is that plausible ? What do you think about the Pope, does he deserve a place in my mod ? Also do you think that the Balkans, except Greece, should have the same culture ? Or maybe Daco-Roman north of the Danube and Thraco-Roman south ?
I'm focusing on Europe for now. I still have to consider what impact had a huge Roman Empire (including Axum and Persia) on the rest of the world.
 
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Well, alright I was wrong about the Danube but that's not the point I was making - I was making the point that the empire would have established firmly defensible boundaries, and that these would have become fortified, and also outside of these is where the vassal kingdoms etc would be.

I can't remember what the riverine frontier advanced as the solution was if it wasn't the Danube, but there was one which was not achieved.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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