Hello this is a alternative history where Lithuania accepts the offer from Germany to attack Poland But becomes a national socialist state.
Soldiers of Lietuva
- Thread starter Lietuvaitis
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Chapter I the start of the war
September first 1939 Adolf Hitler the leader of the German reich has offered Lithuania to attack Poland with Germany for Vilnius,we agreed instantly,we may not get a better chance of retaking our capital,on the more scary news the Lietuviu patrijotišku socialistu partija (Lithuanian patriotic socialist party) is rapidly getting more popular.
We've been instructed to attack Poland a few hours later in a organized push in both sides.We are ordered attack first so that we attract the attention of polish troops,we are to take Vilnius and nearby surrounding areas
Lithuanian and German battle plan.
September 2 12.00 We made large territorial gains,at the start of the war the Polish soldiers were holding their ground very well,if the Germans wouldn't have attacked even a minute later we would have lost the war.Either way we are scheduled to move back to Vilnius since we took it so fast.Also write a letter to president Antanas Smetona that we should increase our production of planes,we took massive casualties from bombers alone.Either way i am going to manage the troops in the Suvakai area.
September 3 5.00 The Germans are moving like lightning across Poland,also tell our dear president that our assault is massively slowing down,say thanks to him too,now our planes are more commonly visible in the sky than polish ones!
September 10 8.25 Sorry that i couldn't write in the past seven days,the Poles fought hard,but we managed to take all our objectives,the Soviets invaded in fear that we would take all of Poland and took more heavy casualties than we during the entire war,how is their tactic so terrible that they take so many casualties?Also where currently awaiting orders from Germany to take more land.
October 1 9.12 Sorry again that i couldn't have written for the past 20 days,we got orders that we have to capture Bialystok in 20 days,we managed to take it in 5 but we got orders to take as much land as possible.Also the Soviets recently purged their officers
October 2 5.25 The Poles surrendered and we joined the axis,but as you probably heard that our president was pushed out in a coup,now the LPSP is in charge with is leader Adolfas Petrauskas
Side notes:In real life no party named the Lietuviu patrijotišku socialistu partija existed it is fictional and it is a national socialist party.
We've been instructed to attack Poland a few hours later in a organized push in both sides.We are ordered attack first so that we attract the attention of polish troops,we are to take Vilnius and nearby surrounding areas
Lithuanian and German battle plan.
September 2 12.00 We made large territorial gains,at the start of the war the Polish soldiers were holding their ground very well,if the Germans wouldn't have attacked even a minute later we would have lost the war.Either way we are scheduled to move back to Vilnius since we took it so fast.Also write a letter to president Antanas Smetona that we should increase our production of planes,we took massive casualties from bombers alone.Either way i am going to manage the troops in the Suvakai area.
September 3 5.00 The Germans are moving like lightning across Poland,also tell our dear president that our assault is massively slowing down,say thanks to him too,now our planes are more commonly visible in the sky than polish ones!
September 10 8.25 Sorry that i couldn't write in the past seven days,the Poles fought hard,but we managed to take all our objectives,the Soviets invaded in fear that we would take all of Poland and took more heavy casualties than we during the entire war,how is their tactic so terrible that they take so many casualties?Also where currently awaiting orders from Germany to take more land.
October 1 9.12 Sorry again that i couldn't have written for the past 20 days,we got orders that we have to capture Bialystok in 20 days,we managed to take it in 5 but we got orders to take as much land as possible.Also the Soviets recently purged their officers
October 2 5.25 The Poles surrendered and we joined the axis,but as you probably heard that our president was pushed out in a coup,now the LPSP is in charge with is leader Adolfas Petrauskas
Side notes:In real life no party named the Lietuviu patrijotišku socialistu partija existed it is fictional and it is a national socialist party.
Um, why didn't you just use the real life Lithuanian national socialist movement, the Voldemarininkai?
I thought about it but i decided that i wanted a more extreme government than the Voldemarininkai.The extreme elements should appear during the end of the war.
Also, Lithuania officially declared neutrality in all foreign affairs far before the invasion of Poland, I don't see that they could instantly break their isolationist stance and join with Germany, when they didn't in our history (Germany offered Lithuania a chance to invade Poland together on the last days of August, Lithuania declined)
Yes the german offer inspired me and for the isolationist thing,just lets say that Marcelė Kubiliūtė found Polish documents about the second commonwealth
Also great honor knowing that you commented on my althistory
Great honor? I don't think I'm that important...Yes the german offer inspired me and for the isolationist thing,just lets say that Marcelė Kubiliūtė found Polish documents about the second commonwealth
Also great honor knowing that you commented on my althistory
I think with some tweaking, this can be a good scenario. There was indeed a chance that Lithuania could align with Germany, Kazys Škirpa was even later disappointed that Lithuania didn't take the chance (although, in his case, hindsight is 20-20)
Thanks,in this scenario Kazys Škirpa will not be disappointed as i plan making Lithuania ally Germany,also i made Lithuania accept the German offer because if i denied it would be a copy of your we were martyrs scenario.
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Chapter II Lietuviai danijoje
9th of April 1940 12:13 Lithuanian forces got orders from the German high command to protect the northern boarder against the danish if they joined the allies,the LPSP ordered that the soldiers were to follow the general recently promoted named Friedrich Wilhelm Ernst Paulus,the Lithuanian soldiers didn't complain as they were forced to attack a few hours later.
9th of april 12:13 After we won in Poland i was appointed the leader of the 1st armored division which almost only contains tanks granted by the Germans.
9th of april 12:15 We were ordered to assist German troops invading Denmark,the danish don't even try to defend,they just surrender
9th of April 13:23 The danish have already surrendered,were now ordered to march towards Belgium
11th of April 5:32 When my men reached Belgium i was instantly send to defend the 2th infantry division on the Russian border,i am writing this on a train to Lithuania.
Diary of Jonas Voldemaras of the 1st Lithuanian armored division
May 9th 1940 Since i volunteered to join the army in 1939 August 7th i was always prepared to attack,at the start i was disappointed that because of training i missed the war in Poland and when i finally joined the battle in Denmark i didn't even fire a shot!I just was informed to be prepared to attack,i hope i will get a chance to fire a shot and prove to the cowards that fought in Poland saying that war is hell.
May 10th 1940 i recently crossed the Belgian border and the column just stopped for some reason and when i asked why they answered that a single bunker is stopping the entire column,this is disgraceful to Mindaugas the first king of Lithuania!How could a single measly bunker stop the entire division!
May 11th 1940 Yesterday we crossed the bunker and rushed to relieve the fallshimjager who took fort Eben-Emael.I am currently writing this on my tank on the way to the fort,we were informed that we are moving faster than expected so were ordered to slow down.
9th of april 12:13 After we won in Poland i was appointed the leader of the 1st armored division which almost only contains tanks granted by the Germans.
9th of april 12:15 We were ordered to assist German troops invading Denmark,the danish don't even try to defend,they just surrender
9th of April 13:23 The danish have already surrendered,were now ordered to march towards Belgium
11th of April 5:32 When my men reached Belgium i was instantly send to defend the 2th infantry division on the Russian border,i am writing this on a train to Lithuania.
Diary of Jonas Voldemaras of the 1st Lithuanian armored division
May 9th 1940 Since i volunteered to join the army in 1939 August 7th i was always prepared to attack,at the start i was disappointed that because of training i missed the war in Poland and when i finally joined the battle in Denmark i didn't even fire a shot!I just was informed to be prepared to attack,i hope i will get a chance to fire a shot and prove to the cowards that fought in Poland saying that war is hell.
May 10th 1940 i recently crossed the Belgian border and the column just stopped for some reason and when i asked why they answered that a single bunker is stopping the entire column,this is disgraceful to Mindaugas the first king of Lithuania!How could a single measly bunker stop the entire division!
May 11th 1940 Yesterday we crossed the bunker and rushed to relieve the fallshimjager who took fort Eben-Emael.I am currently writing this on my tank on the way to the fort,we were informed that we are moving faster than expected so were ordered to slow down.
Chapter II Thought belgium
The flag of Lithuania
Diary of Jonas Voldemaras of the 1st Lithuanian armored division
May 12 1940 We relieved the fallshimjager and now are moving to Brussels,those damn Belgians didn't even try to defend,but the French should retaliate.I hope that the great leader will see my progress and be convinced of total racial superiority,that is if he ever stops believing them,but hes to great to be fooled by such stupid theories.
May 13 1940 Were not that far from Brussels and i recently met the first resistance that my division met,now those cowards lie in hell,but in other news the British just flew to Brussels with their so called red devils.
May 14 1940 We made little gains because of the Belgian attack,they failed,I think that the veterans from the Polish campaign have some fact in their saying that war is hell,it is for our enemies
May 17 1940 We are at the gates of Brussels, we are ordered to prepare to assault with our infantry,the so-called red devils won't stand a chance against our superiority.
May 21 1940 We just captured Brussels and now were marching to Rommels division who captured parts of the french coast
June 4 1940 We are ordered to reach the outskirts of Paris as fast as possible,i recently won the knight's cross recently and don't intend to die with it
June 8 1940 We just captured Paris,everyone who took part in the assault was awarded the medal of Paris
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James G
Gone Fishin'
There is something which you seem to have forgotten with your TL: Stalin.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed so that Germany wouldn't have to fight the Soviets in Poland. It gave Lithuania to Stalin. With a strong, warlike Lithuania doing all of these amazing feats of action all over Europe, that means Stalin doesn't get Lithuania.
Have you forgotten this?
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed so that Germany wouldn't have to fight the Soviets in Poland. It gave Lithuania to Stalin. With a strong, warlike Lithuania doing all of these amazing feats of action all over Europe, that means Stalin doesn't get Lithuania.
Have you forgotten this?
He probably did, but this can be explained by the idea that maybe the OTL modification to the M-R pact in September didn't take place, meaning that the original arrangement (Lithuania stays in German sphere, Soviets get more of Poland or something) stays in place. (Fun fact: the original version of the M-R pact did, indeed, put Lithuania in the German sphere.)
As for some criticism - to be honest, the overall poor grammar is kinda jarring and detracts strongly from the readability of the TL. Further, I'm also a bit skeptical about the format. Is this, like, a commander's diary? IMO, that sort of format really doesn't work all that well if you're just going to only mention the facts anyway and not say anything about the personal experiences of the commander in question (like some sort of anecdote about what happened during the invasion, or complaining about how his superiors are giving unrealistic orders that he cannot fulfill, or gloating about how easy things are going, or mentioning some local girl he flirted with while the squad was staying at a village, or commenting on the poor quality of the rations they have to eat... stuff like that). If you don't want to write that kind of stuff, it'd probably be better if you scrapped the diary and just went for a factual, history book-style enumeration of events. (Plus why is someone writing into his diary in second person?)
Why is there suddenly a king?
Not sure why the Lithuanian Nazis have decided to adopt a Nordic Cross-style of flag - especially one that just eschews the traditional yellow-red-green. Unless Hitler just told them that this is the flag they now have to fly... I mean, maybe they'd deface the tricolor with a fascist-style coat of arms, but why this flag? (I'm guessing you just wanted to use it? Where did you get it from, anyway? I found it via Google on a Novorossiyan propaganda site, but I'm not sure if they maybe took it from elsewhere.
No need to reinvent the wheel, Lithuania has an OTL Nazi flag:I always thought that a fascist Lithuania would have their medieval flag
This is slightly irrelevant, but that website is the craziest shit I've seen all day.
In real life Lithuania got a offer in late august from Germany that if they attacked Poland they would get Vilnius,hell the original pact Lithuania was in the German sphere but they gave up on it for a bit more of Poland.Also Lithuania is getting Military support from Germany.
This is a mix of perspectives one of a Lithuanian tank Ace and One of Letters and a diary of the Commander.Currently there is no King but a dictator who heavily loves that period and imagines that hes ruling it in the medieval ages,and for the flag i found it on reddit on a fourm on fictional flags that is older than the Novorossiya.
No need to reinvent the wheel, Lithuania has an OTL Nazi flag:
This is slightly irrelevant, but that website is the craziest shit I've seen all day.
The Lithuanian National Union was founded in 2011 and agree on the website
Perhaps, but LITAS's flag is based on Baltic symbolism, I'd look there for a Nazi flag first.
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