Sociopolitical and Cultural progress had Carthage won

I wonder if there is a way to ensure the long-term survival of the Libyan Elephant species in the TL? As well as warfare, they could be tamed for uses in material transportation. When the Romans took over Punic Sicily after the First Punic War, they were said to have found maybe couple of hundred such specimens on the island.
 
I wonder if there is a way to ensure the long-term survival of the Libyan Elephant species in the TL? As well as warfare, they could be tamed for uses in material transportation. When the Romans took over Punic Sicily after the First Punic War, they were said to have found maybe couple of hundred such specimens on the island.

Interesting, Perhaps they could find more acreage to sustain themsleves in the more suitable Agriculutural lands of Iberia and Gaul? Or were they specifically adapted to the more desert like climate of Northern Africa?
 
The Elephant species became extinct around Tunisia in Roman times, where of populations survived in Sudan and Eritrea until the 1800's. The lands around Carthage were quite fertile 2000 years ago. The Carthaginians may have found those actual Elephants in the valleys of the Atlas Mountain region.
 
Punic military campaigns against Ptolemaic Egypt might not be feasible occurance. However, if a solid monarchy takes over Carthage, intermarriage between the Ptolemies and the Barca's might not be a bad idea. Closer ties between the two royal houses might allow for an extended Punic commercial presence in the Red Sea, with trading posts on the eastern coast of Arabia. Plus, immigration from the eastern Mediterranean could fill up the ports of the Punic cities in Africa and Iberia.
 
The strenghened regime of Carthage, and the wealth generated from Spain might encourage poor urbanites from Greece, Anatolia, and even the Levant to sail for the western Punic Empire. If Carthage has managed to subdue the Lusitani, the Calleaci, and the Asturians, resettled Punics and Greeks on the northern and western coasts of Iberia could open up the Atlantic Celtic markets to the Mediterranean world. Maybe by the First or Second Centuries CE, the Atlantic islands of Canaries and the Azores would see limited settlement by Mediterranean peoples? Pontone ships, famously constructed by the Celtic Venetii from Brittany until their defeat by Julius Caesar, may be adopted by Greek and Punic mariners. The larger and sturdier Pontones may be the first step in the endeavor of crossing the Atlantic Ocean.

Just thought I'd bring this to your attention.:)
 
The Elephant species became extinct around Tunisia in Roman times, where of populations survived in Sudan and Eritrea until the 1800's. The lands around Carthage were quite fertile 2000 years ago. The Carthaginians may have found those actual Elephants in the valleys of the Atlas Mountain region.

I do find it very interesting, I just can't find any information on what kind of Climate would they prefer. Would Gaul, or Northern Iberia be too cold to support a viable population?
 
Punic military campaigns against Ptolemaic Egypt might not be feasible occurance. However, if a solid monarchy takes over Carthage, intermarriage between the Ptolemies and the Barca's might not be a bad idea. Closer ties between the two royal houses might allow for an extended Punic commercial presence in the Red Sea, with trading posts on the eastern coast of Arabia. Plus, immigration from the eastern Mediterranean could fill up the ports of the Punic cities in Africa and Iberia.

Well Lysandros, my plans for Carthage and it's relations with Ptolemaic Egypt won't really start to reveal themselves further down the Road. Intermarriage would also be a very intersting chain of events that could eventually leave the breadbasket which is the Nile into Carthaginian hands.
 
The strenghened regime of Carthage, and the wealth generated from Spain might encourage poor urbanites from Greece, Anatolia, and even the Levant to sail for the western Punic Empire. If Carthage has managed to subdue the Lusitani, the Calleaci, and the Asturians, resettled Punics and Greeks on the northern and western coasts of Iberia could open up the Atlantic Celtic markets to the Mediterranean world. Maybe by the First or Second Centuries CE, the Atlantic islands of Canaries and the Azores would see limited settlement by Mediterranean peoples? Pontone ships, famously constructed by the Celtic Venetii from Brittany until their defeat by Julius Caesar, may be adopted by Greek and Punic mariners. The larger and sturdier Pontones may be the first step in the endeavor of crossing the Atlantic Ocean.

Just thought I'd bring this to your attention.:)

Ill definatley take that into accord.
 
I do find it very interesting, I just can't find any information on what kind of Climate would they prefer. Would Gaul, or Northern Iberia be too cold to support a viable population?

I wouldn't bother taking them to Gaul. At a stretch, the southern Iberian countryside might not be such a bad habitat for the species, but I wouldn't plan on taking too many of them overseas. Elephants are hard to train. Its probably best that their numbers be allowed to swell in North Africa. Try to relax the exploitation of the species somewhat.
 
If the Gauls are allowed to prosper ITTL, other Celtic tribes, such as the Treveri and the Vindelici in Germany, both branches of the Boii, those in northern Italy and in Bohemia, the Noricae in Austria, and the Scordisi in Serbia, could develop into proper kingdoms throughout northern and eastern Europe, bringing political stability to those regions. The Germanics could face conquest by the Celtic nations, or adopt much of their culture. The La Tene Culture of Europe could be taken to a new level.
 
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