Smallest Independent Greece

What would be the smallest a post-Ottoman independent Greek state could be?

Theoretically some small island to which the government of a formerly larger Greece flees, which some naval power then protects in order to spite the Ottomans - but choses not to control directly because it would be too much bother, so Greece functions as an independent microstate.
 
Excluding the above type of scenario, I'd say the smallest Greece would be basically the moder Regions of Attica, Central Greece, Pelopponnese and West Greece; anything smaller and you're more likely just going to get a Greek state (IE a region based state that's majority Greek, like the Despotate of Morea as a historic example), but not Greece as an actual entity unto itself.
 
Excluding the above type of scenario, I'd say the smallest Greece would be basically the moder Regions of Attica, Central Greece, Pelopponnese and West Greece; anything smaller and you're more likely just going to get a Greek state (IE a region based state that's majority Greek, like the Despotate of Morea as a historic example), but not Greece as an actual entity unto itself.

You've ironically described the original borders of the Kingdom of Greece.
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Everything in dark blue is probably the smallest territory Greece could have. Any smaller and the Great powers would intervene against the Turks.
 
I dunno why, but I was thinking they has Thessaly from the get go, even though from my various games of Victoria I knew they did'nt. :eek:

Yeah the original (modern) Greek state was pretty much a midget nation until the Balkan wars. Hell Geographically the Principalities of Serbia and Bulgaria were larger!
 
Hmm, I also was not aware of Thessaly being later.
Could there be an earlier independence restricted to Morea? Or would that not be considered Greece.
Or even so temporary as not to be considered?

I'm also pondering the plausibility of a pentopolis (or similar) in the peninsular being called Greece
 
Hmm, I also was not aware of Thessaly being later.
Could there be an earlier independence restricted to Morea? Or would that not be considered Greece.
Or even so temporary as not to be considered?

I'm also pondering the plausibility of a pentopolis (or similar) in the peninsular being called Greece

I think I read somewhere that the Ottomans had briefly enterrained after 1853 establishing a Greek buffer state in the Morea. Such an eventuality might have been interesting.
 
I think I read somewhere that the Ottomans had briefly enterrained after 1853 establishing a Greek buffer state in the Morea. Such an eventuality might have been interesting.

But the Morea was already part of Greece in 1853 was it not?
 
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