Small nations, small consequences

HJ Tulp

Donor
In less than 5 years, peacefully all those puppet states moved allegiance back to Indonesia, Negara Indonesia Timur was the last one, their people had supported Indonesia, so their leader unwillingly accepts their return to Indonesia, though later on he led a small scale rebellion

Eh? I wouldn't call them Dutch puppet states though they were meant as a way to counter Javanese influence in what was supposed to be a constituent country within the Kingdom. They CERTAINLY NOT became part of the Republic Indonesia (instead of the United States of Indonesia) in a peaceful way. West Java, Atjeh and the Southern Moluccas all saw extensive fighting and some areas still do.

A independent RMS (Souther Moluccas) would create a precedent for other ethnic groups in Indonesia and it would certainly have influence on the events that made West Papua become part of Indonesia.
 
Giving Hong Kong independence would be interesting.

But it would require a significantly different world: a dramatically altered China-UK relationship. China as it is would never permit it, and has the (diplomatic, economic, ultimately military) teeth to make their disapproval stick. Plus the British have no interest in antagonizing China. All that would have to be different.
 
Katanga? I don't think many Europeans or Americans would notice one more poor, kleptocratic Central African state.

Decolonization and the World Wars are where most of these proposals are going to come from, I think.

Maybe the Baltic republics could be given formal independence at the end of WWII as part of the Soviet bloc? That wouldn't be creating a new nation, but it would be giving it independence earlier.
 
Free City of Trieste- Microstates and city-states should apply. Though this case I'm not too sure of. Would Trieste have affected Balkan/Italian politics if it was independent?

Trieste had and still has an overwhelming majority of Italian. Sooner or later it would return to Italy unless, for a few butterfly , you choose to incorporate it in Yugoslavia since 1945.
 
I suppose carving a small Kurdish state off the mandates of Iraq and Syria is far too much, isn't it? And again I say balkanisation of Syria into multiple states with the inclusion of an independent Hatay (which might eventually be reincorporated into Turkey eventually).

If mainland Greece goes Communist, how about an independent Rhodes or Crete?
 
Obama is the least of things that matter in Hawaii not being part of the US. Its pretty much a given that he wouldn't exist. His parents perhaps wouldn't either. Let alone meeting.

If Hawaii isn't American, the Japanese invade in 1941 instead of just a bombing raid. Having the islands as a major Japanese base in WWII is quite a major strategic change I think.
 
Anjouan, one of the islands of Comoros, has had a rather active separatist movement, and attempted to maintain independence for a time. Not much impact on the world if it does stay independent.
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I think an independent Fiume or Trieste could have had an impact, especially if its independence were in the 1920s or 1930s; it would probably have some impact on Italian fascism.
 
Allenstein. One of several areas run by the victorious allies after WWI until a plebiscite could be organized. Schleswig and Upper Silesia were other examples.

North Ingermanland. Briefly obtained independence from Russia in 1920.

Karelia (same as above). This, and the two preceding entiries, are remembered only because they lasted long enough to issue their own stamps, so collectors remember they existed.

Republic of the Rhineland. Declared itself independent of Germany around 1923. Independence was supported by the occupying French military, but the US and Britain were having none of it. Ceased to exist after 1 day. [Didn't even last long enough to issue any stamps.]

Carpatho-Ukraine. When Czechoslovakia was dismembered in 1939, this little territory at the eastern edge of the country declared its independence. Hungary seized it after a few days.

Emirate of Bukhara. Regained its independence for a while during the Russian Civil War. The emir was, I think, the last royal ruler descended from Ghengis Khan.
 
I suppose carving a small Kurdish state off the mandates of Iraq and Syria is far too much, isn't it? And again I say balkanisation of Syria into multiple states with the inclusion of an independent Hatay (which might eventually be reincorporated into Turkey eventually).

If mainland Greece goes Communist, how about an independent Rhodes or Crete?

Kurdistan leads to war with Turkey, sooner or later.

And almost any change in the Middle East has significant impacts. A weaker or Balkanized Syria can't threaten Israel as effectively, which changes the deployments of the IDF to favor defending against Egypt . . . which makes 1973 go quite differently.

For better or worse, fiddling about in the Middle East impacts the world.

As long as our economy runs on the black stuff found primarily under countries run by crazies, that is.
 
How about Nevis of St Kitts and Nevis? Nevis does have a secession movement and there have been votes on it in the past.
 
Would it be possible for us to work on a timeline where as many of these small nations (and even smaller microstates) become independent and sovereign? Anyone interested in such an undertaking?

Also, would Ryūkyū independence had led to minimal butterflies? There still could have been U.S. bases in Okinawa.

Could anyone answer either of these two points, please?
 
The Free City of Tangiers? I also believe Catalonia was independent during the Spanish Civil war? Alscacle-Lorraine was independent from France and Germany which both wanted it for a month. Free City of Danzing?

These two are before 1900 but they would be fun, Republic of Vermont and Republic of Sonora
 

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Katanga? I don't think many Europeans or Americans would notice one more poor, kleptocratic Central African state.

Decolonization and the World Wars are where most of these proposals are going to come from, I think.

Maybe the Baltic republics could be given formal independence at the end of WWII as part of the Soviet bloc? That wouldn't be creating a new nation, but it would be giving it independence earlier.

the Katanga thing would change the entire UN due to this guy and the congo crisis at the Un

Hammarskjöld was killed in a plane crash in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) in 1961.[5] US President John F. Kennedy called Hammarskjöld "the greatest statesman of our century."[7]

The Congo Crisis (1960–1966) was a period of turmoil in the First Republic of the Congo that began with national independence from Belgium and ended with the seizing of power by Joseph Mobutu. At various points it had the characteristics of anti-colonial struggle, a secessionist war with the province of Katanga, a United Nations peacekeeping operation, and a Cold War proxy battle between the United States and the Soviet Union. The Crisis caused the death of some 100,000 people.[1] It led to the assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba, as well as a traumatic setback to the United Nations following the death of UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld in a plane crash as he sought to mediate
 
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