Small nations, small consequences

It is stretching just a bit, but what about the Republic of Hawaii?

Annexed by the US 1898?

A small cient state of the US, with a large military base. Leasing the base would probably be very lucrative during the Cold War.

Wonder if they would have a Philipino like relationship where their citizens would be elegiable to join US military forces?

Could attract KGB agitators duing Cold War.

But overall, impact should be minor.

Hmmmm, what about the other Pacific island nations. Say they were given to the US/UK etc at the end of WWII like the the uninhabited islands.

Also, then Obama really wouldn't be an American :p
 
Hmmmm, what about the other Pacific island nations. Say they were given to the US/UK etc at the end of WWII like the the uninhabited islands.

Also, then Obama really wouldn't be an American :p

I think most of them were colonies way before that. Hawaii was an independant republic just two years before the 1900 cutoff.

THe OP is asking for nations that disappeared in the Twentith century.
 
I hope you are not so strict with my post, because these are not nations that disappeared, but two nations that never gained independence in the first place.

An independent Lusatia. At the end of World War II, some activists in the small Sorb minority, a Slavic group living in an area divided between present day Germany and Poland, wanted to be independent and associated with Czechoslovakia, rather than be a part of Germany or Poland.

The Free Republic of Schwarzenberg. Historically, the districts of Schwarzenberg, Stollberg and Aue in south-western Saxony (later to become a part of East Germany) were left unoccupied by American or Soviet troops for several weeks after the end of World War II in Europe. The dissident socialist East German writer Stefan Heym has based a kind of utopian novel on this odd fact. According to wikipedia it is a socialist utopia, party told from the viewpoints of its inhabitants.
 

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Somaliland in the Horn of Africa remains independent of Somalia.

Sarawak and Sabah in Borneo remain separate from the Federation of Malaysia.

Papua (West New Guinea) remains independent of Indonesia.
 
I think I heard that Tigray, located in northern Ethiopia, has tried to become independent before, so, yeah...

The Mosquito Coast

Republic of the Yucatan

Any number of Bantustans established by South Africa

Equatorial Guinea being divided into two states, an island based one and mainland one

(Truly) independent Western Sahara
 
It is stretching just a bit, but what about the Republic of Hawaii?

Annexed by the US 1898?

A small cient state of the US, with a large military base. Leasing the base would probably be very lucrative during the Cold War.

Wonder if they would have a Philipino like relationship where their citizens would be elegiable to join US military forces?

Could attract KGB agitators duing Cold War.

But overall, impact should be minor.

The impact of that one would be felt by the present day, though, given that President Obama was born in Hawaii. Independent Hawaii makes him constitutionally ineligible, which means either Clinton 44, President McCain, or a completely different career path for whoever gets the 2004 keynote address slot, if Obama doesn't.

Edit: And somehow, I completely missed the second page of this, and therefore that OAM47 pointed this out as well. Whoops.
 
But Barack Obama wouldn't have been born in Hawaii (if he'd been born at all) if we're assuming that Hawaii is never annexed by the USA. His mother's family only moved to Hawaii in 1960 after Hawaii was admitted to the union. If Hawaii's not American they don't move at all, or move to somewhere else within the union.
 
But Barack Obama wouldn't have been born in Hawaii (if he'd been born at all) if we're assuming that Hawaii is never annexed by the USA. His mother's family only moved to Hawaii in 1960 after Hawaii was admitted to the union. If Hawaii's not American they don't move at all, or move to somewhere else within the union.

Forgive my somewhat poor understanding of US citizenship laws... but, even born on the Kingdom of Hawaii, he still would be the son of an american woman. Doesn't that give gim automatic citicenship too? I seem to remember one of the other candidates (MacKay?) WAS born on Panama
 
But what I'm saying is that Barack Obama's mother is not native Hawaiian, and only moved to Hawaii because it was a US state. If it's the Kingdom of Hawaii all likeliness is that they don't move there at all, and maybe stay in Wichita or move someone else. You can be an American citizen and not be born on US soil, but you have to be born on US soil to be president. McCain's qualifications were pretty poor, having been born in the US-controlled Panama Canal Zone, but the Supreme Court decided that the Panama Canal Zone at the time was US-territory.
 
. You can be an American citizen and not be born on US soil, but you have to be born on US soil to be president. McCain's qualifications were pretty poor, having been born in the US-controlled Panama Canal Zone, but the Supreme Court decided that the Panama Canal Zone at the time was US-territory.

That's one of the weirdest requiremnets I have seen... I can understand to exclude foreingers than have gotten nationality, but if your mother was on a holiday trip to Vancouver when she gave birth, yuu are barred from office?
 
Obama is the least of things that matter in Hawaii not being part of the US. Its pretty much a given that he wouldn't exist. His parents perhaps wouldn't either. Let alone meeting.
 
Would it be possible for us to work on a timeline where as many of these small nations (and even smaller microstates) become independent and sovereign? Anyone interested in such an undertaking?

Also, would Ryūkyū independence had led to minimal butterflies? There still could have been U.S. bases in Okinawa.
 
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But what I'm saying is that Barack Obama's mother is not native Hawaiian, and only moved to Hawaii because it was a US state. If it's the Kingdom of Hawaii all likeliness is that they don't move there at all, and maybe stay in Wichita or move someone else. You can be an American citizen and not be born on US soil, but you have to be born on US soil to be president. McCain's qualifications were pretty poor, having been born in the US-controlled Panama Canal Zone, but the Supreme Court decided that the Panama Canal Zone at the time was US-territory.

That's not actually true. The Constitutional requirement is "natural-born" citizen.

I was born in what was at the time known as the 2nd Army General Hospital, in Landstuhl, Federal Republic of Germany. I do not, techically, have a birth certificate. I have a US State Department Report of Live Birth of an American Citizen Abroad. I was born to a US citizen, fathered by an American citizen, and do not have dual citizenship nor am I naturalized.

I am eligible to be President, should I suddenly acquire millions of dollars, unexplained name recognition, the sort of personality that would WANT to be President, and the sociopathic nature necessary to lie that convincingly to that many people.
 

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Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus. Bonus points since it's survival would means the Soviets don't get access to southern Caucasus. Independent states in the Caucasus would surely spice up things in the region.
 
Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus. Bonus points since it's survival would means the Soviets don't get access to southern Caucasus. Independent states in the Caucasus would surely spice up things in the region.

That would be massively significant to global politics though.
 
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