Slavery in America... Today.

If the south would of won or fought to a draw against the USA. I think the CSA would lose slavery very fast. The CSA would have learned the lessons of the Civil War and tried to industrialize as fast as they could. I don't buy this ideal the south would of tried to hold on to an slave agricultural society.



All nations learn lessons from war. But the people on this board try to project a south that would not change. After fighting against the industrial might of the USA and losing over 200,000+ dead, believe me the south would change very fast into a industrial nation. You would find the slaves soon replaced Irish and European immigrants to work in factories. The CSA would not stay the same and slavery would be dead either way.
 
If the south would of won or fought to a draw against the USA. I think the CSA would lose slavery very fast. The CSA would have learned the lessons of the Civil War and tried to industrialize as fast as they could. I don't buy this ideal the south would of tried to hold on to an slave agricultural society.
The South industrializing does not neccessarily lead to abolition.
 
The South industrializing does not neccessarily lead to abolition.

This is true but slavery and industrialization do have problems. If a slave is hurt in a factory, does the factory have to pay the slave owner for the harmed slave? And the level of industrialization need for the south would require either a vastly larger slave population or mass immigration. Faced with the great racial unbalance after the war with so many dead whites and the danger of slave revolts I believe the south would of chosen European immigration over increased slave levels.


With increased industrialization means more industrialization on the farm. Trucks, trackers, harvesters would replace a lot of the need for slaves. In short slavery would end. What would happen to the former Slaves is another question. I believe you would still have a Jim Crow style south. Perhaps with WWI, WWII and a neutral South you would have black immigration north for war time jobs and a better life. Either way a modern CSA would always be weaker then USA. But I think the relationship between the two would be one of allies and not enemies. Not after all the blood between the two and our common background. It would be something like America and Britain relationship today, just with a lot more trade between the two.
 
The CSA's burning pillars were defiance and preservation of their socio-economic heritage, all praise King Cotton.

If the CSA keeps its independence, that would be a fierce enforcement of what the CSA was founded on. I don't remember reading too much about abolitionists in the antebellum south, and the headiness and hormones of an against-the-odds victory would redouble the fervor behind such circumstances.

The plantations and their slaves would be sacred icons of the CSA and its blood-won independence. I would presume that a CSA government would act to support plantations affected by an economic crisis foisted on them by the damnyankees.

I could see CSA industrial developments --for example, the construction of textile mills to develop their own cotton-- as being joint venture cooperatives between plantation owners and perhaps the CSA itself, undertaken to tell consumers of their raw product that they don't need their stinking factories to add value to their products, that they can do that on their own, thank you so much...
 
For those who saw "O Brother Where Art Thou," you can visualize a Homer Stokes person addressing the prospect of an abolition debate,

"So and so wants ta free the nigrahs, and replace 'em with East Yoru-peeans, with non-English-speaking Papists, with Slavic types, [sneer] Medi-tuh-ranean swarthy workers!"
"Is that yo cultural heritage??"
"That's not mah cultural heritage!!"
 
?Could the South follow a more Crafts based Industrialisation?
Slaves remain of the Plantation while turning out Hand crafted Goods.
[Hand painted porcelain, Hand assembled & decorated furniture etc.]
 
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