Situation in Africa in an Axis victory.

Blacks won't be honorary Aryans. They are black, they are from Africa. All of the writings the Nazis put out on racial theory are pretty clear on this, and other racial writings of the late 19th/early 20th century were pretty clear that blacks were quite different. The Nazi attitudes towards the Japanese were pretty negative, Germany reaching back to the late 19th century was big on the whole "yellow peril" thing. For practical reasons, because of a military alliance, this was played down but this could be managed because the Japanese were allies and also far away.

Again, remember that mixed race GERMANS who were the result of African/German sex during the occupation period after WWI were sterilized by the Nazis to prevent any more race pollution. While some people could be promoted to Aryan status, such as "Aryan" children of Slavs for adoption, the most you could see is blacks who were diplomats or business men from countries the Reich had relationships with being tolerated on Reich territory. Those blacks living in territory administered by the Reich - slavery.
 
But you don't think that not a single "black" ethnic group can be honorary Aryans? Even in a racial hierarchy of various inferior races, I'd expect the Ethiopians to be the highest ranking of blacks simply because of their culture and their racial traits compared to other black people. It's to the Ethiopian misfortune that their land was demanded by the Italians and the Nazis would grant them that.
 

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Expect something similar to what the Belgium's did in Rwanda and Burundi. Certain "ethnic groups" will be favoured over others, like the Tutsi over the Hutu.
There won't be any genocide, just like everyone else the Nazi's would see Africa as a place to be exploited for it's resources, which needs cheap labour which is readily available in Africa, most colonies already have forced labour policies which are no different to slavery so there's little difference there.. Expect the Nazi's to do something similar to indirect rule, favouring "indigenous" forms of rule with favoured chiefs and ethnic groups serving as proxies to German rule.Africans are seen as underdevoped and racially inferior so only "traditional" forms of governance with white guidance would be appropriate
Basically exactly like pre second world war colonial rule, which just goes to show how fucked up colonialism was.
 
No. If you suggested the idea to Hitler and the rest of the Nazi leadership you'd be laughed out the room.

But think of it. Out of every Asian "race" you'd pick the Japanese, above the Chinese even? Since "honorary Aryan" is based on political concerns above anything else, you really don't that a Nazi Germany - Fascist Italy relation turned bad would have the Nazis recognise the Ethiopians--or even the Somalis too--as being a credit to their race as the greatest of Africans (because of Aryan blood) being mistreated by the Italians as if they were one of the inferior African races? What I just wrote rather sounds like some ATL's Nazi propaganda. Even if Ethiopians can't acceed to honorary Aryan status, I think as politics go, they'd be the "highest" of African races.

Basically, racism in Africa, while accepting whites over natives (while whatever remains of Ethiopia is the best bet for "honorary Aryan", that's a longshot for that status), is going to be heavily based on political concerns. There will be a hierarchy of African peoples which will certainly be enforced--it will be rather arbitrary and based on politics as well, but I think for European rule, you'd probably put people like the Pygmies at the lowest rung.
 
If you think that is strange, remember the Ethiopians are classified racially as Caucasian not Negro. We all laughed when we read it in sociology back in college.
 
If you think that is strange, remember the Ethiopians are classified racially as Caucasian not Negro. We all laughed when we read it in sociology back in college.
You must have been reading some older stuff and on Caucasoids. Caucasian didn't mean 'White' initially.
 
The Nazis would be to preoccupied with going full year zero on Europe to care about Africa, which would mostly be left to colonial powers.
 
The Nazis would be to preoccupied with going full year zero on Europe to care about Africa, which would mostly be left to colonial powers.
If the Nazis were one thing, it is greedy. They also wanted to be self-reliant, which means they would be after fruit, rubber, minerals, coffee, tea, spices, tropical woods, and probably Big Game hunting trophies. It would also allow them to surround the other Eruopean powers, as well as to get a position near South America and on the Indian Ocean.
 
If the Nazis were one thing, it is greedy. They also wanted to be self-reliant, which means they would be after fruit, rubber, minerals, coffee, tea, spices, tropical woods, and probably Big Game hunting trophies. It would also allow them to surround the other Eruopean powers, as well as to get a position near South America and on the Indian Ocean.

Even then, the Nazis are going to be too busy going full Pol Pot in Eastern Europe, and them rubbing it in Western Europe's faces.
 
The Ethiopians claim the Queen of Sheba came from their land and had a son with King Solomon. They also claim to have the Ark of the covenant. So crazy Nazi logic might classify The Ethiopians as Jews.
 
You must have been reading some older stuff and on Caucasoids. Caucasian didn't mean 'White' initially.

It was in the mid 80s.

Also Somalis see themselves as Arab, not African.

Somalia was a member of the Arab League.

The Ethiopians claim the Queen of Sheba came from their land and had a son with King Solomon. They also claim to have the Ark of the covenant. So crazy Nazi logic might classify The Ethiopians as Jews.

Remember today's Israelis consider the Ethiopian 'Falashas' as Jewish.

What was the official Nazi position on Arabs?
 
It was in the mid 80s.

Somalia was a member of the Arab League.

Remember today's Israelis consider the Ethiopian 'Falashas' as Jewish.

What was the official Nazi position on Arabs?
I meant the books that whatever you were reading were referencing. I imagine they found some old ones and brought it out so everyone could have a laugh about Sthiopians being considered Caucasian or Caucasoid, even though it isn't to far fetched. The Somalis and Sthiopians I have met look different than Kenyans, Tanzanians, and Nigerians. Instead they look a more Yemeni. Heck, I think the Ainu in northern Japan were considered Caucasoid due to facial structure.

As for the other parts, the Arab League also includes Lebanon, whose Phoenician descended population had some saying they did it mostly to not offend the Arabs. But yah, the Arab League is a bit of a cultural club. The Falashas were only recognized as Jewish by Israel some years back, and there were problems in th least decades when it was discovered Israelis giving them long lasting contraceptive shots, saying they either took the (whatever they claimed it was) or they would be refused entry into the country or the right to stay. I imagine the Germans wouldn't even give it a second thought, brushing it aside as some Africans claiming they had one Jewish baby three thousand years ago. They would not interfere in Italy's area there, and might make jokes about crossing Jews and Africans when they finally get talk shows. Lots of off color jokes there,

As for Arabs, Hitler thought they were racially inferior (as most were) but that they had a warrior spirit. He was also happy to try and slice up their land in promises to the Turks, Italians, Spanish, and French. Whoever was incharge of the Middle East (Not th Spanish, who were after Morocco, Mauritania, and a bit of Algeria) would be trusted to provide plenty of oil at a reasonable price to Germany. Or Else. I actually often wonder what would happen to the Turkic people in Russia in a Nazi victory. I imagine they get deported, but the Turks will need somewhere to put them. Armenia, Mosul, and Allepo might do it.
 
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