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Didn't the Germans put some adhesive or some gum like solution on their tanks to prevent magnetic charges sticking to them I think it was Zimm something?

Yes - but about the only people using magnetic mines ------ was the Germans so after a while late war they stopped bothering
 
Hey does anyone know when the Canadians started developing the Ram Tank?
In July 1940 the Canadians and British started talking about Canada Producing Cruiser tanks for Britain. However, sections of the Canadian military thought it would make more sense to make some of the M3’s that Britain had already ordered in the US.

In September, it was decided that all M3s would be built in the US, but that the British purchasing commission would buy motors, transmissions and Machine Guns.

In October the Munitions and Supply Department started signing contracts with Canadian Companies for components, though Privy Council permission was only actually granted in January.

 
In July 1940 the Canadians and British started talking about Canada Producing Cruiser tanks for Britain. However, sections of the Canadian military thought it would make more sense to make some of the M3’s that Britain had already ordered in the US.

In September, it was decided that all M3s would be built in the US, but that the British purchasing commission would buy motors, transmissions and Machine Guns.

In October the Munitions and Supply Department started signing contracts with Canadian Companies for components, though Privy Council permission was only actually granted in January.

Ok now for my second question would it be possible to change the Ram from a tank design over to an APC or is that not possible with the tanks hull configuration?
 

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Didn't the Germans put some adhesive or some gum like solution on their tanks to prevent magnetic charges sticking to them I think it was Zimm something?
Zimmerit.
Heer thought, Mein Gott! We have magnetic mines, what if the British of Soviets copy them? and then wasted 2 man yearhours of effort applying, texturing and hardening that stuff with blowtorch, when the Allies never bothered.

The British did have sticky bombs for a short time, and they would have stuck on anyway, but had moved onto HEAT based weapons
 
Ok now for my second question would it be possible to change the Ram from a tank design over to an APC or is that not possible with the tanks hull configuration?
Most rams were converted to kangaroo personnel carriers and were key equipment for the Canadian army especially in the Netherlands campaign.
 

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Ok now for my second question would it be possible to change the Ram from a tank design over to an APC or is that not possible with the tanks hull configuration?
M2/M3/M4 could have almost anything on top.
Postwar, Israel played with front and mid-motored M4 for various AFVs.
 
6 October 1940. Lincoln, England.
6 October 1940. Lincoln, England.

A specially invited group arrived at William Foster & Co works for a demonstration of the Special Vehicle Development Committee’s first prototype of the tank ordered earlier in the year.

Sir Albert Stern, who’d pressed the Cabinet for the chance to show again the skills that had led to the first tanks in 1916, was joined at the demonstration by the rest of his committee. Sir William Tritton (his firm was hosting the event); Harry Ricardo (he’d worked on the Paxman 12 cylinder diesel engine); Sir Ernest Swinton; Sir Eustace Tennyson D’Eyncourt were all present. The only person missing was W G Wilson, whose epicyclic transmission hadn’t been adopted, but he and Stern had never really had an easy professional relationship.

The tall, narrow hull shared the rhomboid shape of the Great War tanks. The Paxman diesel drove the nickel-steel track plates through an electric drive system from Merz & McLellan, though built by English Electric. Only one half had been able to be weighed, which at 34 tons and 14 cwt, meant the whole thing, even before weapons or real armour, the tank stowed and crewed for action was likely over 73 tons.

A Matilda II turret was mounted on top, with a French 75mm howitzer in the front of the hull, similar to the design of the French Char B1-Bis. The mock armour plate was 2.55 inches and designed to withstand a hit from a 47mm armour piercing round. All of this had originally been conceived during the Phoney War, when the thought of ‘hanging out the washing on the Siegfried Line’ was still a practical consideration. Such an idea was fatally undermined when the Panzer Divisions showed what tank warfare could look like.

Due to Stern’s links with the establishment, and the fact that he still retained his reputation from the Great War, it seemed that no one had the heart to tell him that he and his committee were wasting valuable time and resources on a pointless exercise.
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There's an American archeologist in Jordan that would like to borrow a couple to visit Petra. He's looking for some sort of ancient cup or challace.
 
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6 October 1940. Lincoln, England.

A specially invited group arrived at William Foster & Co works for a demonstration of the Special Vehicle Development Committee’s first prototype of the tank ordered earlier in the year.

Sir Albert Stern, who’d pressed the Cabinet for the chance to show again the skills that had led to the first tanks in 1916, was joined at the demonstration by the rest of his committee. Sir William Tritton (his firm was hosting the event); Harry Ricardo (he’d worked on the Paxman 12 cylinder diesel engine); Sir Ernest Swinton; Sir Eustace Tennyson D’Eyncourt were all present. The only person missing was W G Wilson, whose epicyclic transmission hadn’t been adopted, but he and Stern had never really had an easy professional relationship.

The tall, narrow hull shared the rhomboid shape of the Great War tanks. The Paxman diesel drove the nickel-steel track plates through an electric drive system from Merz & McLellan, though built by English Electric. Only one half had been able to be weighed, which at 34 tons and 14 cwt, meant the whole thing, even before weapons or real armour, the tank stowed and crewed for action was likely over 73 tons.

A Matilda II turret was mounted on top, with a French 75mm howitzer in the front of the hull, similar to the design of the French Char B1-Bis. The mock armour plate was 2.55 inches and designed to withstand a hit from a 47mm armour piercing round. All of this had originally been conceived during the Phoney War, when the thought of ‘hanging out the washing on the Siegfried Line’ was still a practical consideration. Such an idea was fatally undermined when the Panzer Divisions showed what tank warfare could look like.

Due to Stern’s links with the establishment, and the fact that he still retained his reputation from the Great War, it seemed that no one had the heart to tell him that he and his committee were wasting valuable time and resources on a pointless exercise.
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6 October 1940. Lincoln, England.

A specially invited group arrived at William Foster & Co works for a demonstration of the Special Vehicle Development Committee’s first prototype of the tank ordered earlier in the year.

Sir Albert Stern, who’d pressed the Cabinet for the chance to show again the skills that had led to the first tanks in 1916, was joined at the demonstration by the rest of his committee. Sir William Tritton (his firm was hosting the event); Harry Ricardo (he’d worked on the Paxman 12 cylinder diesel engine); Sir Ernest Swinton; Sir Eustace Tennyson D’Eyncourt were all present. The only person missing was W G Wilson, whose epicyclic transmission hadn’t been adopted, but he and Stern had never really had an easy professional relationship.

The tall, narrow hull shared the rhomboid shape of the Great War tanks. The Paxman diesel drove the nickel-steel track plates through an electric drive system from Merz & McLellan, though built by English Electric. Only one half had been able to be weighed, which at 34 tons and 14 cwt, meant the whole thing, even before weapons or real armour, the tank stowed and crewed for action was likely over 73 tons.

A Matilda II turret was mounted on top, with a French 75mm howitzer in the front of the hull, similar to the design of the French Char B1-Bis. The mock armour plate was 2.55 inches and designed to withstand a hit from a 47mm armour piercing round. All of this had originally been conceived during the Phoney War, when the thought of ‘hanging out the washing on the Siegfried Line’ was still a practical consideration. Such an idea was fatally undermined when the Panzer Divisions showed what tank warfare could look like.

Due to Stern’s links with the establishment, and the fact that he still retained his reputation from the Great War, it seemed that no one had the heart to tell him that he and his committee were wasting valuable time and resources on a pointless exercise.
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You know beat way to deal with him in my book is find him something that seems inherently useful but actually is a massive ammount of busy work that will take a year few years to complete.
 
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