Sigismund the Old rules from 1492

If Henry VIII has younger half brother born from Henry VII's second marriage then even if H8 and CoA have daughters only problem of succession could be easy solved: Henry VIII's daughter could marry her paternal half-uncle, thus H8 would have female line descendants on the throne, who would still be male line Tudors.
Although I have nothing against surviving son of CoA-say Henry, Prince of Wales, future Henry IX, is born in 1508.
 

krieger

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If Henry VIII has younger half brother born from Henry VII's second marriage then even if H8 and CoA have daughters only problem of succession could be easy solved: Henry VIII's daughter could marry her paternal half-uncle, thus H8 would have female line descendants on the throne, who would still be male line Tudors.
Although I have nothing against surviving son of CoA-say Henry, Prince of Wales, future Henry IX, is born in 1508.

How long do you expect him to live?
 

krieger

Banned
I've not decided yet. Maybe he would predecease father, but not before having kids, thus Henry VIII would be succeeded by grandson.

OK, but let's return to Jagiellons. How long would John von Tieffen live without Olbracht's Moldavian adventure (and it is rather uneasy to say, because we don't have any clues on von Tieffen's birthdate)?
 
OK, but let's return to Jagiellons. How long would John von Tieffen live without Olbracht's Moldavian adventure (and it is rather uneasy to say, because we don't have any clues on von Tieffen's birthdate)?
As you have said it is hard to guess. Let's say he died in 1505. At this point likely Frederick of Saxony would still succeede him. Teutonic Order switched to more high born Grand Masters with family ties to Jagiellons to have better position when dealing with Polish Kings. In 1505 it is still to early for Sigismund's nephews, thus brother of George the Bearded is most likely option.
 

krieger

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As you have said it is hard to guess. Let's say he died in 1505. At this point likely Frederick of Saxony would still succeede him. Teutonic Order switched to more high born Grand Masters with family ties to Jagiellons to have better position when dealing with Polish Kings. In 1505 it is still to early for Sigismund's nephews, thus brother of George the Bearded is most likely option.
Will Frederick of Saxony still oppose Polish sovereignity over Prussia? Because if he still returns to Saxony TO is going to face serious problems.
 
Frederick Wettin refused to pay homage to Polish King at the moment very unfortunate for Poland-John Albert died during preparation to war against TO and his successor Alexander was busy in the East. ITTL Frederick would be in worse position.
 

krieger

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Frederick Wettin refused to pay homage to Polish King at the moment very unfortunate for Poland-John Albert died during preparation to war against TO and his successor Alexander was busy in the East. ITTL Frederick would be in worse position.
Still, after Sigismund I demanded a homage, he escaped to Saxony and left Prussia.
 
I'll return to that idea with some modifications: John Albert and Alexander die as kids, not long after birth of their youngest brother Frederick. So compared to previous version I'm expecting few changes:
-Vladislaus may be under stronger pressure to consumate his first marriage with Barbara Hohenzollern, say he did it. He had son (Charles, named after his great-great-grandfather, Charles of Luxembourg, who was remembered as great king in Bohemia) born in 1481, and Elizabeth, born in 1483. Barbara dies giving birth to Elizabeth. During struggle for Hungarian throne Vladislaus is facing less problems-not only he don't need to compete with younger brother, he could also marry Beatrice without OTL schemings and would not bother to get annulment if he has heirs already.
Meanwhile Sigismund, who is obvious heir of his father after death of Saint Casimir, could marry Kunigunde of Austria, who was previously proposed to his pious brother.
Frederick Jagiellon would not join the Church, after death of brothers he'll be needed as spare heir and likely ends as Grand Duke of Lithuania (and marry Helen of Moscow) while Sigismund gets Poland.
 
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