Sicily in British Empire sphere of influence.

You could have Henry (the second I believe, Edward Longshanks's father) succeed in putting the Sicilian crown on his younger sons head. That would give the British a direct royal right over Sicily.
 

archaeogeek

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You could have Henry (the second I believe, Edward Longshanks's father) succeed in putting the Sicilian crown on his younger sons head. That would give the British a direct royal right over Sicily.

In the 18th century? It would have as much substance as keeping the Plantagenet claim to the throne of France, i.e. none.
 
The British presence wouldn't be much I imagine outside maybe the military garrison in whatever bases the British forces the Sicilians to hand over. The Godfather was a good enough movie.

Agreed. But without the Sicilian (Italian in general) hatred/distrust of the Irish, the two organized crime groups could have more successfully worked together, providing a much more devastating history of organized crime and a whole new source of inspiration for the mob film genre.

But yes, the Godfather was one of the best movies ever made and didn't need us micks whatsoever... still a boy can dream.

I'll shut up and continue reading the discussion, I probably shouldn't even have posted something so off topic here anyway. :D
 
I hope this discussion finds a plausible way to make this happen. If Irish revolutionaries are exiled to Sicily by the boatloads early enough to integrate into their populace/bloodlines, the Godfather will be that much cooler of a movie franchise... Hell, the whole Cosa Nostra will be cooler. (I'm Irish, if you can't tell...)

:p

Hmm.. i don't know.
Mafia is concentrated mostly in west Sicily (Palermo zone),and in early XIX was a still a weak phenomenon.
So maybe with a good administration, British inspired, mafia would never developed.
Or maybe Sicilian Police forces trained in Scotland Yard style in Cities an in Royal Canadian Mounted Police style in countryside would be much more efficent.
 

archaeogeek

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Hmm.. i don't know.
Mafia is concentrated mostly in west Sicily (Palermo zone),and in early XIX was a still a weak phenomenon.
So maybe with a good administration, British inspired, mafia would never developed.
Or maybe Sicilian Police forces trained in Scotland Yard style in Cities an in Royal Canadian Mounted Police style in countryside would be much more efficent.

The Mafia was largely a movement against the centralization in Italy. The empire is unlikely to butterfly away the mafia.
 
Absolutly not.
Are simply criminals, thiefs and assassins.

Maybe you think at separatist movment after WW-II.
but was totally another thing.

Agreed. The mafia or similar groups exist as early as the Napoleonic period, well before any 'centralization' or even unification of the peninsula.
 
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