Sicilian Expedition

....succeeds and Athens controls the Island.

Experts, what happens next??
Sparta loses?
What of Macedonia?
Persia?
Rome?
 
Well Carthage won't be to happy on the west side since it was critical to there trade routes, so they'll be back in force.

Can't imagine they'll be able to hold it for long to be honest, not enough so it'll affect Macedon.

Persia can't see it affecting, maybe they do better because Athens has to send more troops to Sicily to keep control there.

Sparta not sure about.
 
In robertp's "Rome Destroyed" timeline, the expedition succeeds due to Etruscan support, and Athens goes on to beat Sparta and knock down the Achamenids. In the next generation, the new states appearing (for instance, Babylonia) on former Persian territory prove more difficult for Macedonia to conquer, so (IIRC) Alexander's empire stretches only from southern Italy to Asia Minor and Palestine, though the Hellenistic states eventually spread farther than that.
 

Typo

Banned
Athens wins the war, establishes new hegemony in Greece, starts pan-Hellenic crusade against Persia to cement it.
 
Athens wins the war, establishes new hegemony in Greece, starts pan-Hellenic crusade against Persia to cement it.

"We are like frogs, living on the shores of a pond."
also: "you are not a good greek, asking me to go further than a 1 week-march from the sea"
Neither Athen nor Sparta nor anyone else would dream attacking persia proper.
They probably would not even go into inner anatolia

Coasts, are quite another plate of artichockes, of course, thus I do not rule out Lebanon or even the Delta
 
Athens on its own cannot conquer all of Sicily.

Athens, like other Classical era Greek city-states, has a rather limited hereditary citizen-body, a society which can only support small militia armies for little more than national defence or forcing a rival nation to capitulate. Even with the military aid of allied city-states and colonies in foreign ventures, it would cost a lot to keep the army together. And even the nature of an expeditionary force is ad-hoc. Being made up of citizen volunteers and hired mercenaries, plus the fact that the Strategoi, the army's leadership, are elected to their positions and may not always have a professional background. Even if the Athenian effort was successful, it could not keep the army together to occupy Sicily.

Furthermore, the Sicilian Expedition of 415-13 BCE during the Pelopennesian war was mainly against Syracuse in the eastern part of the island, while the cities of western Sicily were under the hegemony of Carthage, whose supremacy among the other Punic and Greek colonies of the western Med going largely unchallenged in this period.

Athens was not like Rome. Athenian citizenship was mainly hereditary through the patrilineal line. Only rarely did it confer citizenship on individuals for performing a great service for the state. The citizens, rich and poor, were greatly outnumbered by the resident "Metic" population, some of which had lived in the city for generations, and yet couldn't vote in the assemblies or bear arms. While in the Roman Republic, any freeborn individual born within Rome or its colonies, whose' parents were freed slaves, or had roots there, were considered citizens. Plus, communities were sometimes granted either Roman citizenship or granted Jus Latii (Latin Right). This practice of enfranchising their subject states in Italy gave Rome an ever expanding reserve of manpower. States such as Athens just couldn't match up to that.
 
I could see Athens ruling Sicily through a proxy. Lets say a Dionysius of Syracuse (Athenian support in later years to claim western Sicily).
Alcibiades gets to command the Expedition and on its success, his rise is unstoppable. Sparta is defeated.
In the subsequent years he reshapes Athens and the enlarged Delian League, and becomes known as the "Athenian Lycurgus".

Lets say the changes see the Delian League becoming a mix of traditions and laws, from Roman ideas on citizenship to the Athenian love of the sea and commerce to the Spartan military ethic...
 
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