Siberian and Far East Russia Independence

In the Russian Civil War, Siberia and the Far East wanted to spilt up with Russia, not wanting to be involved with the Communists. Siberia made a declaration of Independence in 1919, I think. And the Far East called itself a republic from 1920 to 1922.

What would it be like for Siberia to be independent? The USSR would still be pretty big, but it wouldn't look as menacing on a map. I don't see how Siberia would be conquered by China. If you do, show me how. And I personally believe The Far East Republic would be invaded by Japan, when it wanted to expand in the 30s and early 40s, and defended by Siberia.

Perhaps at some point the countries would want to merge. What do you think?
 
In the Russian Civil War, Siberia and the Far East wanted to spilt up with Russia, not wanting to be involved with the Communists. Siberia made a declaration of Independence in 1919, I think. And the Far East called itself a republic from 1920 to 1922.

What would it be like for Siberia to be independent? The USSR would still be pretty big, but it wouldn't look as menacing on a map. I don't see how Siberia would be conquered by China. If you do, show me how. And I personally believe The Far East Republic would be invaded by Japan, when it wanted to expand in the 30s and early 40s, and defended by Siberia.

Perhaps at some point the countries would want to merge. What do you think?

Most likely it becomes divided up among the Chinese, Japanese, Americans, and Soviets when the Soviets invade.
 
Hendryk's Sino-wank TL has a monarchic restoration after the Xinhai Revolution which immediately implements Meiji-like reforms. During the Russian Civil War, the new Chinese government invades Siberia and installs a pro-Chinese puppet government, which the west tacitly supports. The Soviets continue claiming Siberia, all the way until it collapses.
 
I'm talking about these two countries breaking free during the Russian Civil War, if you didn't already know.
 
Hendryk's Sino-wank TL has a monarchic restoration after the Xinhai Revolution which immediately implements Meiji-like reforms. During the Russian Civil War, the new Chinese government invades Siberia and installs a pro-Chinese puppet government, which the west tacitly supports. The Soviets continue claiming Siberia, all the way until it collapses.

Anyway, thanks for the offer. I might look at that.
 
Hendryk's Sino-wank TL has a monarchic restoration after the Xinhai Revolution which immediately implements Meiji-like reforms. During the Russian Civil War, the new Chinese government invades Siberia and installs a pro-Chinese puppet government, which the west tacitly supports. The Soviets continue claiming Siberia, all the way until it collapses.

Cant exactly find that.
 
Cant exactly find that.

The aforementioned Chinese puppet state
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Assuming the Soviets don't reinvade a successfully independent Siberian state (and I suspect they might not simply because it's not worth the trouble--there's not much out there and the Soviets already have enough resources), Siberia will be an odd country in terms of foreign relations. It's cut off from Europe by the Soviets, and must look toward China, Japan, and the Pacific for trade. I agree that a Japanese invasion of the Far East is a possibility, which would further cut the Siberians off, their only viable link to the outside world would then be through China. In any case, I could see Siberia becoming economically dependent on trade with Japan, since Japan badly needs raw materials, comparable to US-Latin America relationship.

A big question here is how the western powers react to this situation. Siberia would almost certainly remain an ethnic Russian dominated state, and thus it falling under heavy Japanese influence could upset the western powers of the day. Could lead to an earlier conflict between Japan and western powers, but except for the US (which is really isolationist at this point), nobody's really in a position to do anything.
 
... Siberia will be an odd country in terms of foreign relations. It's cut off from Europe by the Soviets, and must look toward China, Japan, and the Pacific for trade. ...

A big question here is how the western powers react to this situation. .... but except for the US (which is really isolationist at this point), nobody's really in a position to do anything.

One of the misunderstood aspects of US 'isolationism' is it did not really extend beyond European affairs. There was never a question of isolation from South or Central American affairs, and the US government from 1919 to the end of the 1930s was quite active in Asia. the US military presence in China was expanded with the enlargement of the Asiatic naval squadron, the near permanent posting of the 4th Marine Regiment and 15th Army inf. Regiment in China. The mass of reinforcements sent during the civil unrest in China 1927-28 was probably the largest US military deployment between 1921 to 1940. While the other war plans were neglected for two decades War Plan Orange (Japan) was regularly updated and occupied the bulk of the USN attention for training exercises and study.

The US business community that was active in Asia included Siberia in its interest since the accquisition of Alaska. That languished after 1928, but a number of US businesses (Koch Oil for one) were active in helping the USSR develop its resources east of European Russia during the 1920s.

All this strongly suggests the US would be working actively against Japanese interests in Siberia and try to act as a counter to Japan and other nations attempting to dominate the region. Note that this was the active policy of the US in China from the 19th Century through to 1941. The US government sought to prevent any single power from gaining control of Chinas government or trade.
 
1st how Siberia would be function?
Without Japanese support Siberia can't survive, assuming that Far East become Japanese puppet regime like otl Manchuko. In this case Siberia might survive. But Japan has no chance when Russia sorted out its mess. Then it will be just one sided battle because of logistic. Siberia has no industrial base to developed and survive.
So Soviets would just invade it. No European power could intervene.

So in order to have independent Siberian you need to make mess in European Russia. It becoming divided in several state so no one can dominate. Now you will have independent Siberian state for long period.

For comparision: It is like Canadian Northern Territories becoming Independent.
 
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