Bulgaria was a self-governing vassal since 1878. I dount the Ottomans would be willing to go to war to re-vassalize Bulgaria.
I revised a few things and added some details. (thanks to the person who made the base map) Here's the map:
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Bulgaria was a self-governing vassal since 1878. I dount the Ottomans would be willing to go to war to re-vassalize Bulgaria.
I revised a few things and added some details. (thanks to the person who made the base map) Here's the map:
They absolutely would if there is no German and/or Britain to back the Bulgarians. And I don't know why should the British and Germans guarantee Bulgarian independence. Better to ask AHP on this matter
or have you asked him already and he said OK ?Aside of that, that map is nnnnniiiiiicccceeeee
I'll thank the base-map's creator as well !corourke
Donor
One thing that might bear revising is the OTL border of Libya, I don't know if it would have been adjusted in this timeline, and if it were, I doubt the borders would be exactly the same.
Anyway, the map looks good, and this timeline is also looking very interesting. The Ottomans are in an extremely good position here re: oil and investments, and it seems to me that it's quite possible that a coalition would develop to break their monopoly on the stuff, if they've managed to secure such a monopoly.
Anyway, the map looks good, and this timeline is also looking very interesting. The Ottomans are in an extremely good position here re: oil and investments, and it seems to me that it's quite possible that a coalition would develop to break their monopoly on the stuff, if they've managed to secure such a monopoly.
Then again, look again at the map and see the surrounding of the Ottoman territory. I don't believe OE will just going to be an Anglo-German milk cow, but OE just won't going to antagonize the Brits and Germans unless OE is more super in everything than them already... which will take a quite considerable time at best.
Yes, I considered revising the southern Libyan border. I don't think the British would want southern Libya. The shape of the border doesn't matter, I believe, because it's all desert and oases.
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To go with my map editing here's a timeline edit/clarification. The only thing I changed was the part about Posen.
Grey Wolf
Donor
It used to be represented on maps by /// type of colouring/shading
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Grey Wolf
In some of the later UCS maps, it is represented by a Vassal colour over the area in question, like here in Persia, Siam and China:
Susano
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Actualyl, youre not uisng Susanoist mapping, but UCS mapping. In my map standard, the influenced countries would be outlined in the colour of the influencing nation - whereas in UCS mapping, they have the colour of the influencing nation but are outlined with their own (usually white) colour.
Which is what you have done, so, yeah, thats UCS, not Susanoism
Wait what? Why would Germany backstab its ally so its enemies gain land? Of course, Germany could intervene to salvage as much as still possible, but in this case I think the result would have been quite different. For one, I think they would have taken all of Cisleithania, including the Carniola (Slovenia, de facto), including access to the Adria (though not at the point where modern Slovenia has). And then, I dont think theyd allow Trnasylvania,with its sizeable Hungarian and German minorities to fall into Romanian hands. Same for the Voyvodina/Banat, really. And who would really stand up for Slovakian independance? I do think Hungary would more or less remain territorially intact, at worst lose Slovakia only (and that wouldnt even be all modern Slovakia as its south is Hungarian settled)
/E: Nevermind, read teh map wrong. Soem criciticisms stricken
Though I still do think in dividing the colonies GB gets a share hugaely advantageous to it, compared to Germanys...
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Even though i like the darker colours, i think it is too hard to see the difference between the Dutch and the darker British territories. It is hard to see if Indonesia belongs to Australia or the Netherlands is a British dominion (unless I missed something and that is exactly what happened, in that case the colours are perfect).
/E: Nevermind, read teh map wrong. Soem criciticisms stricken
Though I still do think in dividing the colonies GB gets a share hugaely advantageous to it, compared to Germanys...
Which criticisms still stand?
Yes, I know. Netherlands and Indonesia are orangey. British dominions are pinky.
Oh I forgot to recolour Lesotho and Swaziland.
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Susano
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The ones I havent deleted
So whats still written there (regarding teh actual TL the stuff about Austria) is still criticism.
Yes, I know. Netherlands and Indonesia are orangey. British dominions are pinky.
The Dutch colour is Pinkish Orange, while the British Dominions are orangey Pink?
Actualyl, youre not uisng Susanoist mapping, but UCS mapping. In my map standard, the influenced countries would be outlined in the colour of the influencing nation - whereas in UCS mapping, they have the colour of the influencing nation but are outlined with their own (usually white) colour.
Which is what you have done, so, yeah, thats UCS, not Susanoism
You beat me there, Hessian
, but that's okay I'm a loyal member of the UCS faction anyway.... Now I notice it ! Ottoman Libya is small
!!! well kinda knew that already but it's smaller than I thought it would be... Now I notice it ! Ottoman Libya is small
You're right... all of the Fezzan should be in it...