Settling Accounts trilogy, People and Weapons

marl_d

what do you guys think of some OTL ppl other than Pattaon showing up in the series...i know some of you guys think that Patton shouldn't be in it because of butterflies, well seeing as HT isn't really following them to much. so anyway, who or what (OTL weapons, like B-17, P-51, ect) would you guys like to see in the next couple of books.
personaly i'd like to see,
Omar Bradley(US, was born in Missiouri)
Dwight Eisenhower (CS, born in Texas)
Togo (Japan, obviously)
Francisco Franco (Spain, mabye is brought in on the US/German side, give France a OTL German feel.)
Doolittle (US, born in California) mabye as a US Bomber poilt or in command of US Army Air Corp

ok now weapons
P-51 Mustang
B-17 Flying Fortress
Sherman Tank
Bazookas
flamethrowers
T-34

well thats what i thought of, what do you guys think?
 

Tetsu

Flamethrowers will pop up, I'm sure... they did in the last Great War, after all. Remember McSweeny? (One of my favorite characters... what other character in any book, movie, whatever, admits to using the flamethrower because it makes him feel like the fourth angel from Revelations?)

As for the Sherman tank... if it exists, it will have a different name. It's named for William T. Sherman, the Civil War general that captured Atlanta... which never happened in Turtledove's world. Perhaps the M4 Roosevelt battle tank comes into play? :D

As for the other things, they probably will come into the story soon enough.
 

zoomar

I also enjoy speculating about this ATL technology, although so far its fairly boringly like OTL. . The only weapon described in enough detail to get a sense of what it looks like is the Stuka-like mule dive bomber (gull wings, fixed undercarriage). One also gets the impression that the US Wright fighter might be similar to the P-40. The CS Hound Dog fighter and Razorback bomber are mysteries, although it would seem the bombers are twin-engined medium types rather than big "heavies". For what it's worth, I've mentally pictured the Hound Dog as a Zero-like radial and the Razorback as something like the He-111. The tanks are also a mystery, although they now have main cannon turrets and seem more equivalent to early WW2 models (M3, Pzkw 2-3, etc) than Shermans and T-34's. I wonder what the "automatic rifle" being used so effectively by the CSA is and if it has a modern analog (M1 carbine, maybe?). US carriers have big island structures and Japanese ones lack them - mostly as in OTL.

I would be very disappointed if HT directly imports any OTL weapons to this fictional universe as the odds of weapon design leading to an exact T-34 or P-51 is less than real people being in the ATL.
 

Beck Reilly

Arch-Angel said:
Did anyone else realize that Patton was born in California OTL?
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Patton's grandfather was a Confederate soldier in OTL. It's up to the reader to assume that, had the Confederacy won, his grandfather would never have moved from (I believe he was from) Virginia.
 

Melvin Loh

Guys, just remember that the WWII practice of naming American tanks after CW generals- M4 Sherman, M3 Stuart, Lee, Grant- began with the BRITISH Army, with the 8th Army after they'd received these new American toys in the Western Desert. This practice only became adopted by American troops later. Oh, and won't these armoured vehicles in the series be referred to as 'barrels' instead of our OTL 'tanks' ? Similarly, the C47 was the Skytrain to US forces, and got its name Dakota due to British usage- IIRC the transfer point for the C47s being ferried over to Britain was in North Dakota, hence the name being adopted.

I haven't had the opportunity to read the SETTLING ACCOUNTS series yet, but sounds quite interesting re how separate US and CS weapons would've developed according to HT.
 
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