Settling Accounts: In At The Death - where next for this ATL??

poster342002

Couldn't find a thread on this (please do feel free to merge it into one if it exists), but what do people think of the ending of this book? I laregly enjoyed it, but felt it left a lot of things unresolved. For instance, following all the musings of the black survivors of the CSA, I susupected we see some sort of "black Israel" established (and I thought it would be set up in Utah - giving us an alternate "Palestine/Israel conflict" between the Blacks and the Mormons).

I also noticed the US occupation seems much harsher and more arbitrary (collective punishemnts, etc) than the OTL occupation of Germany.

How do people see this timeline going? Is Turtledove going to take it further in another series, I wonder?
 

Pyro

From what I gather, IatD is the last of Turtledove's Timeline-191 books. Something that a majority on this board seem to believe is a good thing.

As for me however, I'm ambivalent to the series.
 

poster342002

Another thing I found a bit strange was the various Mayors in the CSA worrying about how the camps could affect their re-election prospects (before and after the occupation of the CSA).

What public official in a totalitarian one-party state needs to worry about elections? I'm presuming all local Mayors and other politicians in the CSA would be Freedom Party candidates elected unopposed by 100% of the vote - so I didn't get this at all. :confused:
 
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Trotsky

poster342002 said:
Another thing I found a bit strange was the various Mayors in the CSA worrying about how the camps could affect their re-election prospects (before and after the occupation of the CSA).

What public official in a totalitarian one-party state needs to worry about elections? I'm presuming all local Mayors and other politicians in the CSA would be Freedom Party candidates elected unopposed by 100% of the vote - so I didn't get this at all. :confused:
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Just because the Freedom Party didn't face opposition from other parties by 1944 doesn't mean an incumbent wouldn't get voted out if faced with the voters' wrath. Doggett or whatever the mayor of Humble was named was worried he might get booted out by another Freedom Party man - if he even was a Freedom Party official.
 

Trotsky

poster342002 said:
Another thing I found a bit strange was the various Mayors in the CSA worrying about how the camps could affect their re-election prospects (before and after the occupation of the CSA).

What public official in a totalitarian one-party state needs to worry about elections? I'm presuming all local Mayors and other politicians in the CSA would be Freedom Party candidates elected unopposed by 100% of the vote - so I didn't get this at all. :confused:
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Just because the Freedom Party didn't face opposition from other parties by 1944 doesn't mean an incumbent wouldn't get voted out if faced with the voters' wrath. Doggett or whatever the mayor of Humble was named was worried he might get booted out by another Freedom Party man - if he even was a Freedom Party official.
 
Leo euler

Leo euler

Actually, Turtledove is planning a new book. Here is an excerpt from the first chapter:

Atvar awoke from cold sleep. His shiplord, Kirel, briefed him.

"Fleetlord, we are picking up radio transmissions from Tosev-3."


TO BE CONTINUED!!!!111one










ok, I just made that up.
 

Communist Wizard

Leo euler said:
Actually, Turtledove is planning a new book. Here is an excerpt from the first chapter:

Atvar awoke from cold sleep. His shiplord, Kirel, briefed him.

"Fleetlord, we are picking up radio transmissions from Tosev-3."


TO BE CONTINUED!!!!111one










ok, I just made that up.
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Good god, Turtledove, do this! :D:p
 
scourge

scourge

I feel sorry for the Race . I shudder to think what the Race would think when they find out the big uglies have access to nuclear weapons .:D
 

poster342002

Trotsky said:
Just because the Freedom Party didn't face opposition from other parties by 1944 doesn't mean an incumbent wouldn't get voted out if faced with the voters' wrath. Doggett or whatever the mayor of Humble was named was worried he might get booted out by another Freedom Party man - if he even was a Freedom Party official.
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But in a one-party dictatorship, the wrath of the voters simply doesn't matter: they get who they're given by the party's central office and like it - or face the consequences if they object. I'm not aware of any officials facing contested elections (let alone losing them to an opponent) in the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or China or North Korea or wherever. Why would the CSA under the Freedom Party regime be any different? :confused:
 
Archangel Michael

Archangel Michael

poster342002 said:
But in a one-party dictatorship, the wrath of the voters simply doesn't matter: they get who they're given by the party's central office and like it - or face the consequences if they object. I'm not aware of any officials facing contested elections (let alone losing them to an opponent) in the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or China or North Korea or wherever. Why would the CSA under the Freedom Party regime be any different? :confused:
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Because the C.S.A.--unlike China, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and North Korea--has a long history as being a democratic republic. I can easily see hotly contested primary elections between a few Freedom Party candidates.
 

Faeelin

Archangel Michael said:
Because the C.S.A.--unlike China, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and North Korea--has a long history as being a democratic republic. I can easily see hotly contested primary elections between a few Freedom Party candidates.
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I dunno.

Weimar Germany and the Second Reich appear more democratic to me than the CSA as portrayed, even before teh Freedom Party.
 

Trotsky

poster342002 said:
But in a one-party dictatorship, the wrath of the voters simply doesn't matter: they get who they're given by the party's central office and like it - or face the consequences if they object. I'm not aware of any officials facing contested elections (let alone losing them to an opponent) in the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany or China or North Korea or wherever. Why would the CSA under the Freedom Party regime be any different? :confused:
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We were never told if the mayor of Humble was a Freedom Party man or not. For all we know he was a Whig who heeled to the Freedom Party because he knew how to keep his mouth shut. More likely he was just an independent who was worried about being replaced by another similar guy in the upcoming election.
 
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