Serbia wins the Battle of Kosovo, Saves Europe?

Angel Heart

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The Yugoslav atrocities, the way they act towards Kosovo and Albanians overall and the ubernationalism.

Yes the Yugoslav Wars were a sad chapter of Serbian history I will not try to apoligize it, but remember that the Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians weren't that much better, especially the last ones in terms of "über-nationalism". The Serbs had just the advantage of numbers and military gear, but okay. I don't want to go off-topic and I was never a fan of flame-wars. I only want to say that in some cases, especially the Balkans, the classical black-white view doesn't work, since the world outside is a bit more complicated.

I don't nomraly lump people together, but most of the Serbs I've ever talked to or know, well were not pleasant people, though the most civil one I've ever known was a female nationalist.

You just talked to the wrong persons. I can assure you that the most common Serbs are civilized people. :) Believe me, if the lifeless hooligas we hear about in the news would be the majority, then Serbia would look like Somalia.
It also depends on what you consider as "über-nationalism". In the Balkan folks were never fans of cultural relativism, which some may consider as "über-nationalism" or racism.
 
Austria Hungary AND the Ottomans, but as, ya know democratic Constitutional Monarchies, I'd support that, though I'd go with the Ottomans
if I had to choose, they were generally better and had a cooler name; 'Sublime Ottoman State'.
 
Well, I want Austria-Hungary back. :(

Both are sorely missed, and this thread is really rather revolting. The amount of absurd nationalism, casual Serbophobia, and gratuitous empire-bashing going round is worse than the usual standard in any, which is saying something.

Albanian nationalism, now that is funny.

Most nationalism tends to be darkly absurd in its extreme form. What's the particularly Albanian joke?
 
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