Sequel de Mayo (Cinco de Mayo, Vol. II)
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Germany is the only oversight I can think of, and I’d put it in the bottom list even though it’ll have quite a few speedbumps
It would be hilarious if both America and Mexico slap-fight over who gets to own Central America, only for there to be a revolution to kick both of them out. Also, if that happens, RIP Canal.
Ah! No idea how I forgot them, especially considering I mentioned them like a half-dozen times.
This is also a complete miss on my end. Good catch!
Jesus christ, i really hope that all Marines and Boston Fruit thugs involved will get some kind of comeuppance!
A great update despite the bleak subject matter
Nicaragua’s government enjoys American largesse but El Salvador and Honduras are probably not big fans of either the US or Mexico for a long time; to say nothing of Guatemala!
Thanks!
And, well… history is full of those who should be punished who never are, I’ll just leave it at that. The US is not a particularly pure protagonist, despite how much were all (I’m sure) enjoying its pulverizing of the CSA
Of course, i think weve been on a run of seeing slaver stomping for so long this brought me right back down to earth (under no illusions that the US has its fair share of blood on the record)
Looks like the Author has decided to make it clear that Honduras belongs on the first list.
Yeah they're not only on the list but rapidly climbing it too. I feel for the average fruit worker - they've gone from Standard to Boston but it's textbook "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
You know, I just realized that the Spanish Flu, if it arises here (and I see no reason it wouldn't) is going to emerge fairly early on in the CEW. Furthermore, by 1918 the GAW is over and has been for at least a year, but the South is still going to be a shambles - economically ruined, demographically decimated, and occupied by Union troops. I don't know if we'll see be seeing famine in those lands at this time but if we don't its because a nasty one just finished up. In other words, the people of the Confederacy are going to be in POOR health. And then you drop a killer like the Spanish Flu on top of it ... *shudders*. In OTL, it killed between 3-5% of the world's population and infected over a third. I'm guessing that it's death toll in the Confederacy here is going to be closer to 5% and perhaps even surpassing it due to the lact of health infastructure brought on by the war, along with malutrition and other post-war related issues. (Sidenote: And I also just realized that the Boll Weevil is also going to be chowing down on cotton drops during the 20s as well. The South isn't going to be able to catch a break during the "Terrible Twenties" - though the post-war might see a temporary move towards greater food production plus there's going to be a lack of hands to manage the cotton crops which might mitigate the worst of it for a while).
Turning back to Europe, I wonder what the impact of the Flu is going to be at the height of their war, rather than during it's tail end and in the aftermath. It is going to eat right through people in the trenches as well as disrupt war-related industries; but it sounds like people are going to be better fed and just generally in better shape than the average Eurpean was in 1918 in OTL.
Turning back to Europe, I wonder what the impact of the Flu is going to be at the height of their war, rather than during it's tail end and in the aftermath. It is going to eat right through people in the trenches as well as disrupt war-related industries; but it sounds like people are going to be better fed and just generally in better shape than the average Eurpean was in 1918 in OTL.
The problem here is yes, "Spanish Flu" could be just added to the TL, but the place believed to be the source of Spanish Flu (Fort Riley in Northern Kansas) is highly unlikely to have a significant number of US troops.
Lets just make it worse - and just relocate it to a different starting point. I mean, with how ruined the Souh is, lets call it "Confederate Flu"
lol.
That was only to site of the first reported case - it's highly likely it developed elsewhere and flew under the radar until that moment. Which makes sense because Fort Riley was where recruits would get their physicals- an outbreak there would be noticed; whereas cases elsewhere would initially be passed over as just seasonal influenza.
And also, Fort Riley was a training center for troops to be sent over seas. The Fort was established in 1853, so it predates the POD and there's no reason to think it wouldn't be used in a similar manner during the GAW - especially as it had previously been utilised as a US Cavalry school, meaning that it had facilities for training already there. So even if we assume that the Flu DID develop in Kansas, its reasonable to assume that it would first still be recognised at Fort Riley. Though, because of butterflies, the illness might first be noticed during an outbreak at another Fort (or even in a civilian community)
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Really hammer home to the confederacy that God does not like their way of life and that the war and Flu are His way of punishing them.
Maybe, could just go the extra mile and call it the Peruvian Flu, or Chilean Flu.
It only got thr name Spanish because the earliest reports to hit the media were in Spain - and Spain's neutrality earned is a rather odd reputation at the time. So these names make as much sense as any other.
I'm trying to think who iTTL has a reputation as being a poor neutral relatively close to fighting. for the GAW, I *guess* Colombia or Venezuela. For the CEW, Sweden?
It wouldn't really have to be a neutral nation - if it still arises in the US it could just as easily be known as the "American Flu" or "Union Flu." If it striking the Confederacy hard is what gets stuck in the public mind, "Confederate Flu" or "Dixie Flu" would be pretty obvious names for it (especially if much of the early reporting is driven by Union reporters during the Occupation. Such a naming would serve a whole slew of political purposes!). If we DO want to name it after a neutral nation, I have a soft spot for the "Canadian Flu" - its close enough to the US that it likely gets hit pretty early on, and the GAW has forced a lot of American harvests to ship out through Canada during the war (and this will likely continue afterwards due to the Mississippi needed to be dragged) meaning that there is a lot of crossborder traffic and connections meaning that a disease that develops on the American prairie is going to transfer to Canada very quickly; and from Canada to Europe and the world.
IOTL the image of Spain being unusually hard hit originated because all the warring nations were deliberately suppressing news of the outbreak, so if the USA or CSA have press restrictions similar to those the Allies (including the US) and the Central Powers had IOTL and choose to suppress news of a potential flu outbreak a neutral nation may be likely to provide the moniker.