Wont quite be as bad as 1912 but it’ll persuade all parties that it is at minimum antiquated
Gonna be tough to get all the small states on board.

There are 32 states in the union so you'll need 24 states to ratify any proposed amendment which means pro-amendment forces can only afford eight nos.

The following states all have fewer than seven electoral votes as of the 1910 census

Delaware - 3
Nevada - 3
Wyoming - 3
Vermont - 4
Idaho - 5
Montana - 5
New Hampshire - 5
New Mexico - 5
Rhode Island - 6

That's nine states. You'd need at least one of these nine to willingly hand over the power that small states hold sacrosanct and have since 1787. Not saying that's impossible, but it is definitely an uphill slog. Further compounding the difficulties is that this collection of states includes both safe D and safe L states.

For the record, here are the states with seven to nine electoral votes that could also cause trouble for the pro-amendment side.

Oregon - 7
Colorado - 8
Maine - 8
Dakota - 9
 
Gonna be tough to get all the small states on board.

There are 32 states in the union so you'll need 24 states to ratify any proposed amendment which means pro-amendment forces can only afford eight nos.

The following states all have fewer than seven electoral votes as of the 1910 census

Delaware - 3
Nevada - 3
Wyoming - 3
Vermont - 4
Idaho - 5
Montana - 5
New Hampshire - 5
New Mexico - 5
Rhode Island - 6

That's nine states. You'd need at least one of these nine to willingly hand over the power that small states hold sacrosanct and have since 1787. Not saying that's impossible, but it is definitely an uphill slog. Further compounding the difficulties is that this collection of states includes both safe D and safe L states.

For the record, here are the states with seven to nine electoral votes that could also cause trouble for the pro-amendment side.

Oregon - 7
Colorado - 8
Maine - 8
Dakota - 9
A fair point!
Will the emu war still happen
Lol idk maybe
 
Will the emu war still happen

Lol idk maybe

We could have an Emu-Kangaroo alliance

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We've discussed the fact that the EC is going away, which it will sometime between 1920 and 1924 IIRC. But the question remains, what replaces it?

The OTL most notable attempt, Bayh-Celler, proposed a runoff system like in Latin America and France (though the threshold to avoid a runoff was only 40% of the vote, IIRC). But they could also do first past the post, instant runoff voting, or the alternative vote. And it's never been hinted which one it is, I don't think.
 
Second Wave: The Postwar Progressive Revolution of 1917-31
"...public health and sanitation had been critical planks of progressive platforms in the first, original Progressive Era, in particular in combatting the spread of diseases in tenement housing during the age before the invention of antibiotics and other crucial medicines; indeed, one of the major federal innovations of the Hughes years had been the establishment of a national Bureau of Public Health, which while small and fairly powerless was an important clearinghouse for best practices and tracking public health statistics, and would be an important forerunner to the National Institute of Health and, eventually, the Department of Health and Medical Services which coordinates the various federal and state multi-payer healthcare services which exist today. [1]

The Great American War was a major leap forward in battlefield medicine (indeed, some of the lessons learned by the Red Cross in the trenches of Tennessee or Virginia would save tens of thousands of lives in Europe just a few years later) both in terms of understanding the spread of disease, new methods of treatment and surgery, and an increasing bureaucratization of medicine that professionalized the practice while swelling the ranks of those trained as field doctors or nurses, and even as hospitals and clinics were opened en masse in the years after the war (one of the key promises of progressive champions like Al Smith, for instance, was to open forty new hundred-bed hospitals across New York State), even this explosion in professional medicine could not quite keep pace with the glut of trained specialists, many of whom thus went overseas or turned instead to research. As such, across America, small institutes for medical research, often associated with local colleges or universities, proliferated - the vast, sophisticated American medical and pharmaceutical development industry was in many ways born out of that moment.

The rise of the medical research institute intersected in many ways with other progressive mores, and often operated in a mode of semi-secrecy. In July of 1919, a few blocks from the campus of Columbia University and St. Nicholas Park in Uptown Manhattan, in an otherwise nondescript office building a group of doctors who had served in Pershing's armies in Georgia founded the Institute for Sexual Health, the world's first clinic devoted exclusively to the study of venereal diseases that had spread like wildfire thanks to the semi-tolerated practice of prostitution by the Army and, much less tolerated, the high frequency of homosexual encounters on naval vessels which inevitably led to the discharge of offending sailors in port cities. The ISH's mere existence offended the conservative mores of WASPy, elite Manhattanites near its premises, with police raids frequent due to rumors of gay orgies occurring on its premises and several efforts by neighbors to have it shut down even drawing the intervention of Mayor Meyer London, who quietly urged the researchers to be much more discrete.

Despite the initial backlash, through the 1920s the ISH would expand its field of study to more general sexology [2] as the more open, libertine culture of that decade washed over New York in particular; one of its founding doctors, George Robert Harrell, departed the ISH as its focus drifted from helping study and treat common sexually transmitted diseases and would eventually find his way to conducting similar and broader research at Northwestern University, in time helping lead Chicago to being the home of the Center for Disease Control, the primary federal epidemiological agency today. The innovations in not just venereal research but understanding their intersection with more progressive views of human sexuality helped build the bedrock for the study of sex today, born out of otherwise stodgy institutions and initially virological impulses in a period of time when public admission of premarital sex was highly frowned upon..."

- Second Wave: The Postwar Progressive Revolution of 1917-31

[1] Even this more progressive USA is unlikely to ever go full NHS, but something less than Canada's approach and maybe more approximating Germany or France's federalized, mixed semi-private, semi-public healthcare system seems likelier, with some states possibly even dabbling in single-payer. The downside of this is that there would probably be a very wide discrepancy in quality and access to care depending on where you live.
[2] Inspired directly by OTL Weimar Germany's Institut fur Sexualwissenschaft, which was much more ambitious and controversial (and tragic, considering with how things ended once Hitler came to power)
 
We've discussed the fact that the EC is going away, which it will sometime between 1920 and 1924 IIRC. But the question remains, what replaces it?

The OTL most notable attempt, Bayh-Celler, proposed a runoff system like in Latin America and France (though the threshold to avoid a runoff was only 40% of the vote, IIRC). But they could also do first past the post, instant runoff voting, or the alternative vote. And it's never been hinted which one it is, I don't think.
My instinct, for what it is worth, is just straight first-past-the-post until RCV becomes a mainstream idea in the Redford era
 
Even this more progressive USA is unlikely to ever go full NHS, but something less than Canada's approach and maybe more approximating Germany or France's federalized, mixed semi-private, semi-public healthcare system seems likelier, with some states possibly even dabbling in single-payer. The downside of this is that there would probably be a very wide discrepancy in quality and access to care depending on where you live.
Speaking of other countries, will Canada's health Caresystem, French and German Healthcare system and finally NHS exist?
Canada will be like otl US, no Public healthcare, French ones will be led by Church during Integralist era, persisting to present and still ran by Church, Germany will be evolution of Bismarckian Paternalistic Conservstive healthcare perhaps simmilar to otl, for all its worth maybe SPD create the alt NHS ittl as the largest Social Democratic Party in Europe and I am split on NHS. If it exists, it will be founded by Conservatives instead of Liberals as Liberals are Classical Liberals instead of Social Liberals otl however if Liberals are Docial Liberals, then it will be founded by them maybe even an alt Labour if they get any PMs.
Syndicalist Belgium may have fully public Healthcare ran by healthcare unions and Italy will be simmilar to otl cuz yeah...there aint much political differences there atm.
 
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Despite the initial backlash, through the 1920s the ISH would expand its field of study to more general sexology [2] as the more open, libertine culture of that decade washed over New York in particular; one of its founding doctors, George Robert Harrell, departed the ISH as its focus drifted from helping study and treat common sexually transmitted diseases and would eventually find his way to conducting similar and broader research at Northwestern University, in time helping lead Chicago to being the home of the Center for Disease Control, the primary federal epidemiological agency today.
Yay us!! Obviously wasn't going to be Atlanta here but still, yay us!
 
My instinct, for what it is worth, is just straight first-past-the-post until RCV becomes a mainstream idea in the Redford era
How about a provision stating that the winning candidate must get at least 40% of the vote, otherwise the election is thrown to the house? Would make it impossible for a 3rd party to win by just barely eeking out a plurality, which I think would be appealing to both Dems and Libs.
 
Really hope the advance of study of sex and medicine ITTL will mean greater trans rights much earlier
Considering the EU posts about Canada and the fact that Integralism will be stronger. I don't think trans rights will be adopted widely as fast as OTL. I can imagine that in a Canada-lized, Southless, Alt-USA it will. Hell, I think America will be the first nation to legalize SSM in the cincoverse (OTL it was the Netherlands).
 
[1] Even this more progressive USA is unlikely to ever go full NHS, but something less than Canada's approach and maybe more approximating Germany or France's federalized, mixed semi-private, semi-public healthcare system seems likelier, with some states possibly even dabbling in single-payer. The downside of this is that there would probably be a very wide discrepancy in quality and access to care depending on where you live.

An interesting little factoid, which may give some food for thought. Canada's universal health care system can actually - initially - be traced south of the border to the state of North Dakota of all places. No, ND did not have universal health care, but what it did have was the Non-Partisan League, a not-Socialist organization comprised primarily of farmers which, during their tenure as the dominant political entity in the state, created a state run bank, state owned grain elevators and insurance companies. The other thing that the NPL was known for was trying to expand outside of North Dakota; usually with limited, or temporary success. Sometimes they were met with violence (I believe there was a nasty event in Texas, and their attempts in South Dakota were also hampered a bit), but sometimes they found moderately fertile soil - the NPL and its growth helped spur on the Farm-Labor Party in Minnesota, and formed an important component of the Progressive Party in Wisconsin, or instance.

They also didn't see much reason to respect international boundaries - theirs was an international struggle for farmers against the monied interests, after all. And so they actually made significant efforts to expand into the Canadian Pairie - it had particular success in Alberta and Saskatchewan. In the latter, veteran members would go on to help found the CCF, whose signature achievement would be universal healthcare; a program that would later be sponsored on the national level by the 'Red' Torries.

Why do I bring this up? Well, first and foremost, because I have an insatiable desire to bring everything back to the Upper Midwest (sorry-notsorry :p ). But more importantly, because it strikes me that the first seeds of universal healthcare in the United States could follow a similar model - they would initially start in the western plains states, possibly at the hands of Democratic or Socialist governors there during the 1920s or 1930s. After the system is shown to work, other states outside of the Plains begin to adopt their own systems, because it goes national.

The resulting system would probably be mandated at the Federal Level and receive federal funding, but would largely be operated and managed at the state level, with each state's system varying somewhat in policy and detail, without veering too heavily from the stated goals of supplying quality, affordable, healthcare to its citizens.

A rough timeline could see the first Healthcare system established in Dakota in, say, 1924, with Montana and Wyoming following suite over the next several years. By the 1930s, most of the Great Plains and Upper Midwestern states have it as well, with perhaps a major industrial state such as Michigan or Illinois joining the party. Perhaps Pershing or his successor in an analog for the Red Tories manages to secure a national mandate for all states to establish their own systems - Pershing could be inspired by his time in the military, seeing the way disease undermined the army and civilian sector during the GAW and Spanish Flu epidemic, and also see it as a way to help people during the Not-So-Great Depression of the 1930s ;)
 
Obviously the nuances of medical insurance are not necessarily the focus of this AH, but for OTL, I've always thought something like Japan or Switzerland would make sense within the highly privatized, capitalistic framework of the United States. ITTL it might be different with the strong reaction to Laissez-Faire, but the partnership between public-private as in Switzerland, and the heavy involvement of employer-based insurance (by law) in Japan, seems like something that could be replicated in the USA, with full NHS and other single-payer models perhaps being too socialistic for the average voter. The importance of innovation in American medicine as well doesn't lend itself to socialized medicine being easy to pass or popular in the medical field.
 
Forgive me if this sounds a bit naive but given how well progressivism has done as a ideology what would it look like in a couple of decades? Would it become entrenched as a status quo fitting off other social ideologies or would it still maintain the values of progress overtime.
 
The Black Prince of Belgium: The Dark and Turbulent Life of Stephane Clement
"...to the point that Stephane Clement recommended Augusta Victoria and the children head to Spain to be with her father and brothers; the Laeken was skeptical of that, with some fears that Spain might join the war on the side of the Germans and Italians (whom King Carlos Jose and his government each respectively clearly sympathized with) and hold the family hostage if there were hostilities, but the Black Prince overruled such concerns and dispatched her across the Pyrenees. Augusta Victoria would never return to Belgium, and from 1919 onwards her children were effectively raised as Spaniards in her father's court. [1]

The matter of his family's physical security was not the only dispute between Stephane Clement and his father's government. Despite his experience as an observer with both the Confederate States and Mexico during the Great American War, he was not given a full army command like his brother the Duke of Brabant was; instead, he was assigned the II Congo Corps, a five-division component of soldiers recruited from the Congo, many with experience in the Force Publique, brought to Europe essentially as cannon fodder to operate at the tip of the Belgian Army's spear in pressing towards the Rhine. As the second son of King Leopold, Stephane Clement was given broad discretion in how he conducted war by his nominal superior General Emile Dossin; in practice, the II Congo Corps operated as its own unit at his discretion.

Stephane Clement in July of 1919 was a man committed wholly to, in his own words, "changing my fate." For all one could say of him, he was not stupid, and had become well aware that much of European royalty and elite opinion blamed his behavior for the war having broken out, and he was eager bordering on desperate to prove that he was not the "degenerate animal," as one British newspaper phrased it, that he had been portrayed at after over a decade of being dismissed as a violent, entitled dilettante. He was furious at reports circulating within the Belgian command structure praising the Duke of Brabant's tactical nous in pressing the 2nd Army successfully through the Ardennes in the direction of Bitburg; making matters worse was the arrival of Belgian-born British aristocrat Adrian Carton de Wiart, who quickly ingratiated himself into the Belgian Army and in the course of a few months became a folk hero to Belgian soldiers who had his own press team following his exploits, which by the end of the war would include a myriad of injuries that he chipperly bounced back from. Stephane Clement finally found a way to make his mark on history, and in the campaigns of July and August, he did so.

The II Congo Corps launched at attack through Huckelhoven on July 18, advancing seven kilometers in three days despite taking heavy casualties, and the Battle of Huckelhoven would prove the opening of the last gasp of the Race to the Rhine. The breakthrough, which pinned several divisions of German soldiers against the Dutch border and forced a haphazard evacuation eastwards, was the first major change in the lines north of Aachen in two months, and Stephane Clement made sure to milk the public relations boost for all it was worth. He posed with comrades in pith hats and declared that "the German is unprepared for the savagery of the African," intimating that his Congolese fighters were the best for shock attacks and demanding that more Congolese forces be drawn up to Europe rather than be kept to fight the low-intensity guerilla war across the southern Congo against Lettow-Vorbeck's askari. The breakthrough at Huckelhoven opened up the ground for larger French forces to push through as well, with major successful victories at Lovenich (July 24), Erkelenz (July 25), and in a more southeasterly sector, Titz (July 28). This secondary but more critical offensive concluded on August 2 with the French capture of Bedburg and Bergheim, two villages roughly eight kilometers apart that sat immediately behind a ridgeline just twenty kilometers west of Cologne. In the north, German defenders were able to regroup on the outskirts of Monchengladbach, but after ten days of heavy fighting, the city fell, with the depleted II Congo Corps among those who seized it on August 7.

This "Race to the Rhine" left Franco-Belgian forces in mid-August, when they needed to stop, regroup and fortify their supply lines, with control of a line of hills overlooking the Rhine, even if critical German cities remained just a hair outside of artillery range. Cologne was now directly threatened, and French CASD bombers could be safely placed in Aachen for sorties towards Dusseldorf and Dortmund, too. Stephane Clement returned from the front to Brussels with a number of chief commanders to briefly bask in his glory - had he not taken Hucklehoven, none of the Race would have been possible. The bender that went on in Brussels in August 1919 by the Black Prince and his closest confidants is the stuff of legend, and not in a good way.

The reality on the ground was despite the successful push, the Belgian forces were utterly exhausted, and tensions within the ranks were beginning to emerge. The officer corps was heavily Walloon, and if not Walloon, then drawn from the Francophone Flemish landowning elite; while the enlisted infantry was split more evenly, orders were uniformly given in French, and Flemings noticed that they were often given the most dangerous tasks and received the harshest discipline while favoritism was doled out by senior officers to their friends and relatives in a way that would have put the elitist, aristocratic German Army to shame. The Congo Corps, for that matter, had seen close to fifty percent casualties as Stephane Clement pushed and pushed; the most capable Force Publique veterans had been killed or maimed by the end of the Race to the Rhine, and it would be weeks before more Congolese conscripts, few if any having any combat experience in colonial service, were trained at the Bruges barracks where they were based out of and ready for the front. While glory was, for that fleeting moment, his, the Black Prince had reached the limits of what he could achieve with his corps, and the inherent issues within the Belgian Army were about to become a hindrance in the conduct of the war..."

- The Black Prince of Belgium: The Dark and Turbulent Life of Stephane Clement

[1] Gotta give Steffie's poor wife and kids a happy out
 
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