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Hitler said once: "If all Indians spat at once, all British in India would have drowned".

You can rule over whole lot of people, if instead of compulsive obsessive need to bureaucratise, nationalise, and modernise, you're content that some local native princes are sending you tribute of slaves and ivory. There, 5 million natives are no longer your trouble.
There is reason feudalism works so well. Number of people, and thus problems, you have to deal with directly falls drastically.

If British had set up more princely states rather than try to integrate them one-by-one under doctrine of lapse, they could run India quite longer.
Which is a good point, but the British tried all that in Africa :V and it ended up weakening them as local chiefs began to work together to undermine the entire system. I can't see the Draka, in a society deeply steeped in racism allowing local big men to have enough autonomy because the elite classes of native Africans will eventually start carving out local power blocs to compete with whites ala what happened in Ghana and Nigeria.

That and, its a very long end of a logistical line for the Drakia. Their power base is Southern Africa, several thousand Km away from the densely populated core of Western Africa, which is far closer to British enemies in France, America, and Russia. Any one of those three that establishes a stable trade link to the Maghreb or Senegal will be able to set everything north of Ubangi Chari ablaze in constant revolt.
 
If British had set up more princely states rather than try to integrate them one-by-one under doctrine of lapse, they could run India quite longer.

I don’t think so. One aspect of the Indian independence movement that people neglect was that it was just as opposed to princely states and aristocracy as it was the wider British Empire - indeed, in places like Orissa where there were a lot of princely states, there were in fact specialized movements which existed to combat those specific princely states. The Indian independence movement was the result of the rise of a new, Anglicized elite which grew more powerful than the old, feudal elites and organized in groups like the Indian National Congress. This elite has controlled India from independence to perhaps 2014. Creating more princely states would in fact aggravate this issue, because those princely states would be even more opposed to this new elite.

I think if Britain had found some way to co-opt this elite, that would extend British rule over India.
 
Their power base is Southern Africa, several thousand Km away from the densely populated core of Western Africa, which is far closer to British enemies in France, America, and Russia. Any one of those three that establishes a stable trade link to the Maghreb or Senegal will be able to set everything north of Ubangi Chari ablaze in constant revolt.

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Interlude: Knights of the Air
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Interlude: Knights of the Air

Rhomania was never the richest or the most powerful of countries.

TTL’s version of Greece had come out of the Last Crusade with territorial disputes from almost all of its neighbors- most notably Bulgaria and Serbia- which had driven it into the arms of Britain and the Central Powers. Victory in that war had relied partly on high morale among the Romios, and partly on the fact that the Turks had been under attack by half-a-dozen enemies simultaneously. Said victory had not relied on industrialization or advanced technology (at least not on the part of the Romios) and by the time the World War erupted Rhomania’s military continued to lag behind powers like Russia and France in terms of industry, technology, and funding. This was not due to a failure on the part of the country’s leaders, who had done the best they could to close the gap, but they were working with limited resources and a shortage of capital.

The Rhomanian army instead stressed training, organization, and fanatical devotion to make up for its other shortcomings, and its air fleet was no different.

Rhomania’s air fleet largely consisted of drachenflieger, regarded as a cheaper but equally effective tool for aerial reconnaissance and a superior means for shooting down enemy drachenflierger than air ships. Without airships the second coming of Byzantium lacked strategic bombing capabilities, but its tactical proficiencies were on par with those of the great powers. When the war began Rhomanian drachenflieger were mostly second-hand German models that been recently cast-off by the Combined German Air Fleet, but it made up for the slightly outdated nature of its equipment with highly practiced pilots exhaustively trained to co-ordinate together in jointly destorying the enemy. When Entente forces invaded Rhomania her air fleet successfully maintained localized air superiority, hiding Rhomanian troop movements from their foes and providing up-to-date intelligence for where the enemy was and how best to aim artillery at it.

What it couldn’t do was protect Athens.

Russian military strategy for the World War included knocking Rhomania out early so that it could focus its attention on Germany, Austria, and Bavaria. Defeating the Romios would also open the Aegean to the Russian Navy, which could then link up with the French and Italian fleets and hopefully take control of the Mediterranean away from Britain. When fighting bogged down in mountainous northern Greece where Rhomania lines were shorter, Moscow was forced to seek an alternative means to break the “mad little country”.

And so Czar Konstantin III of Russia unleashed the Russian Air Fleet.

On March 28, 1908 no less than twenty-one Russian airships bombarded Athens with incendiaries, leaving thousands dead and almost twenty-thousand homeless. The bombs were directed towards the naval facilities in the city, but many fell indiscriminately among the civilian population and the fires that they started were not restrained to military targets. The second raid a month later was larger- thirty-three airships- and largely devoted to deliberately causing as much destruction as it could to non-military targets. These included the Parthenon, one of Rhomania’s greatest national symbols, and the country’s parliament buildings, as well as ordinary neighborhoods. Russia’s goal was to break the will of the Romios to fight, and indeed the psychological impact of the air raids was enormous. The Russian Air Fleet could deal death and destruction from the sky, and it seemed that Rhomania was helpless to protect its citizens.

Conventional wisdom held that while air ships were often lost to bad weather (this was the number one cause of air ship losses), only heavy anti-air artillery could stand a chance at shooting them down deliberately. Even then anti-air was only occasionally successful, certainly not successful enough to make air raids prohibitive. As for drachenflieger, it was widely believed that they were useless as an anti-airship weapon. Rhomania- which could afford only a limited amount of anti-air artillery- did what it could to prove attitudes towards drachenflieger wrong. It deployed the ornithopters to target the engines and rigid framework of Russian air ships, hoping that these would be more vulnerable to bullets than the gas cells, revived previously failed trials with incendiary rockets and bullets, and even experimented with suicide attacks.

None of this was more than mildly successful prior to Karolos Artinides.

Karolos Artinides was a twenty-something pilot in the Rhomanian Royal Air Fleet. Like air pilots in most militaries during the World War he belonged to a celebrated and mythologized class, one of the “knights of the air” who risked life and limb in a school of combat that would have been unknown a hundred years before. In OTL he would have been described as an ace for the number of enemy drachenflieger that he shot down, he was thrice shot down himself and thrice survived- once slipping across enemy lines to return to his homeland and vault again to the skies in new aircraft. He took part in the mostly futile attempts by the air fleet to punish Russian airships when they bombed Athens, cursing as the minor damage he was able to inflict proved insufficient to save the city where he was born.

When an incendiary bomb landed on his own childhood home, killing his father, mother, and two of his younger siblings, Artinides was crushed.

After a drunken, hopeless binge that lasted three days, the pilot pieced himself back together. Animated by a self-professed “black rage” Artinides vowed to dedicate himself solely to the dual causes of Revenge and Rhomania, swearing that the next time the Russians returned he would bring down at least one of the enemy air ships or die in the attempt.

He didn’t have long to wait.

On May 21st, 1908, mere weeks after the last air raid, Russian sent its airships in a third time. Waiting for them was Karolos Artinides, with a drachenflieger loaded with every experimental weapon that he thought might give him a chance. Weaving in and out among the enemy vessels, the expert pilot tried all of them to no apparent avail. Neither of the two rockets he had brought hit their mark, and as the Russians themselves had once discovered his incendiary bullets would not ignite within hydrogen cells in the absence of oxygen.

“I resolved that all else having failed I would crash my flier into one of the vessels, that like Samson in the temple of the Philistines I could slay the enemies of our great nation with my death.” He later told a journalist. And so Karolos Artinides picked a spot amidships on the Russian airship Dormition of the Mother of God and flew straight at it, steadily firing his machine guns at the place he planned to hit as he screamed a final wordless cry of defiance.

Mere seconds before his ornithopter would have collided with the ship the hydrogen cell that he had been firing at began to glow and started to burn, the Romio pilot barely managing to pull up in time to save himself. He watched in astonishment as flames spread across the Dormition, tearing the Russian airship apart.

What Karolos Artinides had discovered was that while incendiary bullets do not generally ignite in the absence of oxygen within an airship’s hydrogen cell, if you shoot enough of them at a single location eventually you’ll do enough damage that eventually one will catch fire and the hydrogen will light.

Much of the city of Athens could see the death-throes of the Dormition as it burned against the night sky. The Russian airships had become a source of almost superstitious terror, agents of fiery death that killed families and children with near impunity, and now for the first time one such vessel was suffering the same fate at the hands of a Romio knight of the air. As the first drachenflieger pilot to shoot down an airship and live, Karolos Artinides became internationally famous overnight. The Athenians who had seen his victory with their own eyes dubbed streets, parks, and schools after him. In the week that followed the death of the Dormition alone no less than half-a-dozen babies were named “Karolos Artinides” in his honor, and “Karolos” (without the family name Artinides) became one of the most popular in Rhomania for newborn boys. The pilot was showered in medals and honors. Women mailed him undergarments, young Romios pretended to be him while at play. His “Artinides Technique” for shooting down airships with drachenflieger was swiftly adopted by air fleets on both sides of the war. Airships were no longer nigh untouchable and could not be deployed on air raids without protective escorts of drachenflieger. Military aeronautics turned away towards the development of heavier-than-air-craft to replace airships for strategic purposes.

Artinides himself would die tragically in combat less than a year later- although not before shooting down two more enemy vessels in different engagements- and what remained of his body received a state funeral. But the Romios vowed to never forget him, and that he changed the face of aerial combat forever cannot be disputed.
 
I don’t think so. One aspect of the Indian independence movement that people neglect was that it was just as opposed to princely states and aristocracy as it was the wider British Empire - indeed, in places like Orissa where there were a lot of princely states, there were in fact specialized movements which existed to combat those specific princely states.
I knew of this, did not contest this, and in fact this is part of my reasoning for strengthening princely states.

The Indian independence movement was the result of the rise of a new, Anglicized elite which grew more powerful than the old, feudal elites and organized in groups like the Indian National Congress. This elite has controlled India from independence to perhaps 2014. Creating more princely states would in fact aggravate this issue, because those princely states would be even more opposed to this new elite.

The point of strong princely states is not to appease Indian Nationalist. The point of princely states is to have princes. Princes with it's own military and police, who wouldn't like some activists walking around, telling everyone how princes should have their lands an titles taken. Princes who would suppress those movements. The whole point of princely states is to oppose this new elites.
Instead, British kept trying to Anglicise Indians, creating Anglicised elite, which instead of being pro-British was anti-British. British hostility to princes who wanted to remain subjects of Britain was intense. They kept fighting princes even after they left India - they explicitly forbid princely states from trying to remain independent, wanted to force them to join either India or Pakistan.

I think if Britain had found some way to co-opt this elite, that would extend British rule over India.

Rather than to ally this new elite which would always want independence, it would be easier to keep old feudal elite, which had vested interest to be on British side. Instead, British nurtured those who'd kick them out.
 
Princes with it's own military and police, who wouldn't like some activists walking around, telling everyone how princes should have their lands an titles taken.

But Indian nationalists did not initially advocate this. Indian nationalists initially were pro-prince - hell, the early Indian liberal Ram Mohan Roy went to Britain as an ambassador of the Mughal Empire to fight for the status of the emperor. Initially, Indian nationalists wanted the principalities reformed - it was because that effort failed and were repressed that they wanted more radical solutions.

And even after independence, Indian nationalists weren’t entirely anti-prince - in many cases, princes were retained as governors (“Chiefs of State”) of their respective state till the mid-1950s, and they were paid stipends by the government until 1971.

Princes who would suppress those movements.

IOTL, when the British government repressed the liberal and nationalist movements, it caused the movements to radicalize. How would the princes suppress the movements while not causing their radicalization?

Instead, British kept trying to Anglicise Indians, creating Anglicised elite, which instead of being pro-British was anti-British.

Initially they were pro-British. They only became anti-British as a result of their efforts to implement reforms being constantly spurned by the government, as well as seeing events like horrific famine and lacklustre British response to it.
 
IOTL, when the British government repressed the liberal and nationalist movements, it caused the movements to radicalize. How would the princes suppress the movements while not causing their radicalization?

Why would that be a problem? I think we've established I am talking about forced suppression of movement.
Movement radicalising is bad only if it becomes more radical while it power does not diminish. But if they're radicalising as result of successful suppression, movement becomes less numerous and less dangerous.

But Indian nationalists did not initially advocate this. Indian nationalists initially were pro-prince - hell, the early Indian liberal Ram Mohan Roy went to Britain as an ambassador of the Mughal Empire to fight for the status of the emperor. Initially, Indian nationalists wanted the principalities reformed - it was because that effort failed and were repressed that they wanted more radical solutions.

You've also demonstrated that movements radicalised anyway. That means, with benefit of hindsight, appeasing them was pointless, and British should've go straight to suppression

Initially they were pro-British. They only became anti-British as a result of their efforts to implement reforms being constantly spurned by the government, as well as seeing events like horrific famine and lacklustre British response to it.
Which famine? Orissa 1866, when British paid to import rice at four times the usual price to relive it? Bihar 1873 when British relief prevented most potential deaths? Wasn't until 1943 that British response to famine was lacklustre, and this was hardly surprising given that they lost Burma to Japanese and seas were ridden with U-Boats.
"Constantly spurned". Since Britain ended Company rule in India in 1858, there were dozen Government of India Acts, and two Indian Councils Act. Each act expanded Indian participation in governance by bit. When India finally had elections, opposition boycotted them. The more British were willing to give, the less Congress was willing to work with the system.
 
Which famine?

The Great Indian Famine of 1876-1878, when to save money Britain refused to help starving Deccan peasants until millions died.

When India finally had elections, opposition boycotted them.

Because of the Rowlatt Acts and Jallianwala Bagh massacre. In fact, during the few elections which occurred before WWI, Indian nationalists participated and Congress leader Gokhale applauded their existence - it was due to the brutal post-WWI repression that Indian nationalists refused to participate. Then, after that, there was the Simon commission protests in which Lala Lajpat Rai was literally beaten to death by the British police, the Quit India arrests, and so many other events which radicalized Indian nationalists.

Since Britain ended Company rule in India in 1858, there were dozen Government of India Acts, and two Indian Councils Act.

Which established appointed councils to which Britain appointed sycophants. The councils did not represent the Anglicized elites, and that’s why they failed.
 
Finally finished catching up on this excellent timeline! My main question is how has Ireland holding up? Considering how the British Empire (and the Union as its own entity) is seemingly more vilified ITTL, what became of the Potato Famine and Daniel O'Connell?

Ah, I completely forgot to mention the potato famine! It happened, as per OTL it resulted in Irish communities all around the world. We've mentioned some in the United States and Mexican Texas. Daniel O'Connell was caught up in TTL's French invasion of Ireland and the harsh anti-Catholic, anti-Irish backlash that followed. As a politically active Irish Catholic calling for greater rights he faced harassment and arrest, and briefly fled Ireland for the United States. Catholic Emancipation didn't go forward until the late 1850s ITTL, and Britain has been keeping things quiet there by exiling any Irish who make too much noise about independence.

Will the British eventually guarantee independence to their parts of China after the war as part of liberalization in the face of Drakia (and possibly India) seceding

That remains to be seen. British China is just a collection of different concessions in ports, so independent Chinese city-states only seem marginally viable.

Hitler said once: "If all Indians spat at once, all British in India would have drowned".

You can rule over whole lot of people, if instead of compulsive obsessive need to bureaucratise, nationalise, and modernise, you're content that some local native princes are sending you tribute of slaves and ivory. There, 5 million natives are no longer your trouble.
There is reason feudalism works so well. Number of people, and thus problems, you have to deal with directly falls drastically.

If British had set up more princely states rather than try to integrate them one-by-one under doctrine of lapse, they could run India quite longer.

There were also only a few British in India. Most of British rule was enforced by either the princely states or Sepoys. Drakia is like South Africa OTL writ large. A massive amount of white Europeans that have a home base in the territory they are administrating. Even if the white Drakians are only 20% of the population, that is still plenty to keep the black majority down as long as they control the guns, the trade routes, and have enough collaborators (arabs/Turkish, etc)

Some very good points from both of you. OTL Europeans managed to retain control over colonies despite being vastly outnumbered, usually with the help of some sort of native elites. In Drakia this includes a variety of princely states, a class of educated natives- many of whom are mixed race, and several entire ethnic groups who receive special privileges and higher status. Their version of the Sepoys are the Auxiliaries who make up the majority of Drakian ground forces. We'll talk more about it in the future, but these favored natives receive a degree of power and privilege that they would lose if the regime came down- assuming they didn't lose their lives at the hands of the resentful masses.

Of course Drakia's enemies will support resistance and rebel groups within Drakia, and while White minority rule with a collaborative class can work, it runs into some pretty severe roadblocks once political awareness starts to spread among the general population.

This is part A More Perfect Union, part What Madness Is This? (somewhat with regards to the Drakia) and I like it...

Thank you.:) I was partly inspired by both of those TLs- the USA is a less-perfect More Perfect Union while elements of the Madness- sans the over-the-top absurdity that we love about the Madness-verse- creep in here and there.
 
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From the 1900 map I count the following British Dominions:

Drakia
Nigeria
Liberia/Ivory Coast
Senegal
Algeria
Guyana
Jamaica
Newfoundland
India
Some of Indonesia
Australia
New Zealand

Am I missing or misidentifing any? Are PEI and Cape Breton part of the the Dominion of Newfoundland or independently governed?
 
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The Separate-verse was a world on the brink in the early years of the 20th century.
As one does, I mean it’s 1914 folks, we need a good world shaking war...
The old alliances of the Last Crusade- still shaped by the French Revolutionary Wars and reactionary fears of enlightenment transformation- had largely broken down and realigned themselves in accordance to the principles of self-interest instead of religion or ideology. With the Russian colossus sitting astride Asia and threatening British India, British had broken its ties with Moscow. London was joined by Berlin and Athens, both of whom were terrified of Russian dominance over Eastern Europe, on top of which the (now-federalized) German Confederation was also quite happy with Britain for letting it acquire Hannover through referendum, and Rhomania had revanchist claims over Russian Constantinople. Forced to pick between Italy and Austria in the ongoing territorial dispute over Venice France picked Italy, driving Austria and Bavaria into British arms as well as they sought protection from Russia and France. Portugal remained allied to Britain as it always had been, and Spain under the absolutist regime of Ferdinand IX committed itself to brotherhood with the coalition that would in time dub itself the Central Powers.
Love how everyone drops the Religous stuff and says “Alright lets go for nationalism and Real politik” kinda suprised/sad about Austria-German team up. Ah well guess it was too late for my Austrian Germany.

Increasingly surrounded by enemies, France and Italy had been forced to look for whatever friends they could find. America was always a reliable ally (it was the Franco-American Entente that lent its name to the alliance), but it was questionable what help the United States could actually give France in a European conflict- they hadn’t been any real help in the Last Crusade after all- and so Paris was forced to cast its gaze further afield. There was only one other major power that Britain feared, and neither France nor Italy shared a border with it. But the brutal and totalitarian government of Czarist Russia was deeply unpopular in Republican France and the Italians loathed Russia for its victory in the Last Crusade. Even worse American and Russian influence was colliding in East Asia where America’s ally Japan was fomenting resistance and Pan-Asianism in Korea and Russian-ruled Manchuria, putting France’s most powerful friend at odds with Britain’s most dangerous enemy. Realpolitik came first however, and despite their mutual hatred Paris and Moscow engaged in secret negotiations over a hidden alliance against a common foe.
Well this is akward... I’m now imagining France as a college student bringing home his new akward co worker to the US who is the mom and vigurously disapproves...

Scandinavia sat in an uncomfortably neutral position, sharing a long land border with Russia and a mutual hostility with Britain’s ally Germany.
Oof... not fun for you guys. My guess is that they will go Entente as their is the matter that Russia does not have any special desire to rip the Scandanvians throats out while the Germans certainly do...

All of the major powers had vast dirigible air fleets inspired by the example of the fire-bombing of Berlin, intended to devastate enemy cities from the air with incendiary bombs.
Embrace the Steam Punk it cannot be stopped...
The effectiveness of gas in winning the Last Crusade for Britain motivated an international obsession with chemical weapons- TTL’s version of the Geneva Convention (signed in Stockholm) laid out rules for treating captured soldiers, rights for POWs, and protections for civilians, but there were no internationally agreed upon regulations to what sort of weapons a country could use in battle. It was clear to most observers that the great powers all expected another major war and were preparing to fight it- their preparations inevitably increasing the likelihood of such a conflic
oh god...Now dearly hoping Nuclear Wespons aren’t treated so liberally...oh shit I just gave you an Idea...Noooooooooooooooooooo:p


These included the American conquest and annexation of Honduras and Nicaragua (even if protracted guerilla resistance continued in both countries)
American prospectors heading into the Klondike region. The Americans in the area would form the "Provisional Government of Alaska", treated as a domestic insurrection by the Russian Empire and the recipient of private aid from American citizens.
Ah two grand American traditions, beating up on Central America and having our settlers steal other nations sovereign territory transition well I see...
What wasn’t immediately obvious to the planners in Paris was that the British Empire was deeply sick.

Britain had cultivated an assemblage of autonomous dominions to administer different parts of the Empire in its name. This allowed most of the expenses of imperialism to be shuffled off onto the dominion governments, while the profits- in the form of cheap raw materials and markets within which to sell British goods- remained in British hands. This ensured that there was a large positive flow of wealth from the Empire back to the British Isles, making many Britons very rich and supporting one of the world’s largest economies.
Congrats to Britian for actually making their empire sort of profitable, something they utterly failed in OTL...also giving the Draka the oppurtunity to grow though....

But the problem was that the dominions themselves did not benefit from this system. They bore most of the costs of the Empire but reaped few of the rewards. Industry that had been permitted to exist for purely military purposes had flowered into general production of goods that put colonial economies in direct competition with British producers. The elected governments of the dominions began pushing for economic policies that would better serve their own constituents and resented it when the Parliament in London vetoed such policies in the interests of maintaining British profits. Initially most of the discontent was limited to the majority-ruled dominions- Newfoundland, Australia, New Zealand, the Bahamas, and a few other places- which weren’t as afraid of ‘vengeful native hordes rising against their white superiors’ as dominions such as Drakia and India who were more loyal. But democratic reforms in the United Kingdom in the 1860s alienated many in the minority-ruled dominions (particularly Drakia) and growing calls from within the British reform movement for changes to colonial policy left many in those dominions deeply concerned. There were elements within the British Liberals who sympathized with American Fascism- a fact that white minorities found terrifying- and the willingness by Drakia and other such dominions to tolerate British economic dominance waned.
Interesting...I find it ironic that their efforts to give dominions autuonumy has lead to the exact thing which they were afraid of (people wanting to go the American way out). Also I have to say that This British ruled India is interesting to me. It would take a truely massive amount of White immigration to make there rule stick without the cooperation of Indian princes but it’s implied that the big immigration is going to the Draka, so how does it work?

Black Lamb’s Blood.
Very interesting author and story here, id personally like to see more of his story later on...I assume he’s out of country now.


Also
the Pope condemned it in an encyclical,
That’s my boi... how is the Catholic Church in Drakia reacting exactly? It must be getting increasingly akward if the Draka are sticking up for this.
Among the many Drakian letters, articles, books, and opinion pieces written in defense of Bonded Labor were a series of essays by a previously unknown young woman named Elvira Naldorssen that would be published in book form the following year. Under the title I Grant You Dominion Over Them she drew on arguments from classical philosophy, the Christian Bible, and modern Eugenic theories to argue that the natural state of human society was a hierarchical one in which moral, cultural, and physical superiors ruled over inferiors for their own good. Most of what was presented as Christian Morality in the modern day, Naldorssen asserted, had in fact been invented by the weak and the immoral as part of an ideology of “handicapping” to allow them to control the moral and the strong. Dominion claimed that god really wanted was superior humans assuming a “custodial” role over their inferiors, not superiors “elevating” their inferiors (an oxymoron according her) to a destructive role in governance. As tempting as it is to say that her version of divinely mandated morality was radically new, the truth is that much of it consisted of the same justifications traditionally used to justify the rule of conquerors over the conquered, repackaged for a modern audience.
Yeah.at least their finally being honest about there evil ideology and “theology”... wonder how she’ll go in the world...maybe she'll be the first to push for Drakan feminism ITTL or would she go for a cult of Domescity type deal?
Greater attention towards the abuses of the BLS led to revelations over the nature of Drakia’s Euthanasia Program. “Mercy killing” the disabled had a surprising number of defenders even in countries like France and America, but the sheer size of the program and the number of victims who were children horrified the overwhelming majority of people. Even many Drakians expressed misgivings over the magnitude of the program, although their criticism focused on the treatment of disabled white children as opposed to those of the Natives.
I hate to ask this but...can you give some exact numbers?
August 1, 1907 was a hot day in Jerusalem. The holy city was unusually restive- even for the era of conflicted and ineffective governance that had begun with the creation of the Tripartite Commission of the Holy Land. Crime was on the rise and public order plagued by minor outbreaks of violence between the Muslim and Christian communities and between different types of Christians. Both groups targeted the Jews. Despite its increasingly inability to govern (the Russians vetoed anything the British and the Germans introduced, the British and the Germans vetoed anything the Russians proposed) the Commission had maintained policies designed to push Muslims into converting to Christianity while continuing a project to establish a non-denominational Christian Cathedral in Solomon’s Stables. Meanwhile Russia had adopted a practice of bringing in large numbers of Russian Orthodox settlers to strengthen its claim on Holy Land, leading to a similar German settlement project in retaliation. The influx of new Christian immigrants (and to a lesser extent Jewish Zionists) plus the aforementioned policies, had badly incensed the region’s Muslim majority, while putting the Christians themselves at each other’s throats. Everyone knew that violence was imminent, the only question was what would trigger it.
As I expected the Holy Land is currently a A shit show with that stupid idiotic Commission.this has the potential to be worse than otl...

Nekrestyanov Petr Petrovich, a Russian Orthodox monk making a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, was praying in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher when he decided to move his chair a few feet out of the summer sun and into the shade. In doing so he inadvertently moved into a formerly Catholic part of the church that had been transferred over to the control of the Anglican Church in 1855. Interpreting this as a hostile act designed to expand Orthodox control over the CHS in violation of the restored Status Quo, a group of Anglican clergy marched down and forcibly removed Petrovich, precipitating a general riot between Protestant and Orthodox faithful. When word of the riot reached Lord Addison Monaghan (the British High Commissioner for the Holy Land and all-around religious firebrand), Monaghan dispatched soldiers from the British garrison to protect the Anglicans and arrest Petrovich for starting the fight. What they found were soldiers from the Russian garrison sent by Count Tsyrinsky Lavr Fyodorovich (the Russian High Commissioner for the Holy Land) to protect the Orthodox and arrest the Anglican clergy who had tried to expel Petrovich for starting the riot. One thing led to another and soon you had Russian and British troops shooting at each other in the middle of Jerusalem- the crisis compounded when an attempt by a squad of British soldiers to fire down on the Russians from inside the Mosque of Omar proved the spark for a general Muslim revolt
I love how incompent literally everyone is in this mess, although I have to say I'm really sorry for the Monk.

For the British government this could not have come at a better time- and “better” isn’t a typo. War offered a valid excuse to put off dealing with the question of Drakian reform and the presence of external enemies was an excellent means to enforce unity among the Empire’s dominions. Besides London was legitimately concerned about the size and power of the Russian Empire that had absorbed most of Asia and threatened Britain’s own Asian colonies.
Ah the Short Victorius War strategy...Go ask the Russians in 1905 how that turned out...
 
Ah, I completely forgot to mention the potato famine! It happened, as per OTL it resulted in Irish communities all around the world. We've mentioned some in the United States and Mexican Texas. Daniel O'Connell was caught up in TTL's French invasion of Ireland and the harsh anti-Catholic, anti-Irish backlash that followed. As a politically active Irish Catholic calling for greater rights he faced harassment and arrest, and briefly fled Ireland for the United States. Catholic Emancipation didn't go forward until the late 1850s ITTL, and Britain has been keeping things quiet there by exiling any Irish who make too much noise about independence.
So even more repressed than otl...where are the Irish Exiles sent anyways?
 
From the 1900 map I count the following British Dominions:

Drakia
Nigeria
Liberia/Ivory Coast
Senegal
Algeria
Guyana
Jamaica
Newfoundland
India
Some of Indonesia
Australia
New Zealand

Am I missing or misidentifing any? Are PEI and Cape Breton part of the the Dominion of Newfoundland or independently governed?

A complete list of British dominions;

Drakia
Newfoundland (inc. PEI and Cape Breton)
The Bahamas
Jamaica
Lesser Antilles Federation
Guyana
Algeria
Senegal
Algeria
Nigeria
Indian Empire
East Indies (Sumatra, Java, and a couple others)
Australia (including New Guinea)
New Zealand

Love how everyone drops the Religous stuff and says “Alright lets go for nationalism and Real politik” kinda suprised/sad about Austria-German team up. Ah well guess it was too late for my Austrian Germany.

At the end of the day religion is more likely to be an excuse for war than a cause for it. They were always going to switch to realpolitik when it suited them more.

Well this is akward... I’m now imagining France as a college student bringing home his new akward co worker to the US who is the mom and vigurously disapproves...

:p

Embrace the Steam Punk it cannot be stopped...

Just wait- I have plans.;)

oh god...Now dearly hoping Nuclear Wespons aren’t treated so liberally...oh shit I just gave you an Idea...Noooooooooooooooooooo:p

Don't worry- you'd didn't give me any ideas I didn't have before.:evilsmile:

[QUITE]Ah two grand American traditions, beating up on Central America and having our settlers steal other nations sovereign territory transition well I see...[/QUOTE]

Hola, es Tio Sam!

Congrats to Britian for actually making their empire sort of profitable, something they utterly failed in OTL...also giving the Draka the oppurtunity to grow though....

Interesting...I find it ironic that their efforts to give dominions autuonumy has lead to the exact thing which they were afraid of (people wanting to go the American way out). Also I have to say that This British ruled India is interesting to me. It would take a truely massive amount of White immigration to make there rule stick without the cooperation of Indian princes but it’s implied that the big immigration is going to the Draka, so how does it work?

It's a working system- like I mentioned before having independent or semi-independent countries that are economic satellites instead of colonies is basically how American imperialism and (modern) French imperialism work/ed. The downside is that sooner or later Nicaragua or Algeria will get fed up and try to reassert their independence.

Regarding India, you'll note that most of the immigration to Drakia isn't from Britain- it's from America or France or Brazil or even Germany. Immigration to India is only marginally lower than OTL, the Anglo-Indian community is a lot more willing to accept mixed-race Indians as equals than the Drakaians are Coloreds, the Indian Princes certainly play a role, and as for their rule sticking...

Well they've always been able to count on British intervention if things started to go sour.

Very interesting author and story here, id personally like to see more of his story later on...I assume he’s out of country now.

Oh yes, he well left before his book hit the shelves and ended up emigrating to Sweden. Not all Drakians are monsters- they're human beings like the rest of us.

That’s my boi... how is the Catholic Church in Drakia reacting exactly? It must be getting increasingly akward if the Draka are sticking up for this.

The Catholic Church in Drakia is currently struggling with an identity crisis between most of their members who share the same values as most Drakians and their actual doctrine and official leadership. It will end explosively.

Yeah.at least their finally being honest about there evil ideology and “theology”... wonder how she’ll go in the world...maybe she'll be the first to push for Drakan feminism ITTL or would she go for a cult of Domescity type deal?

She favors a degree of female empowerment, but one that very much does not want to get in the way of women having lots of babies at the same time.

I hate to ask this but...can you give some exact numbers?

By the time the extent of the Euthanasia program became public, some half-a-million people. About half were children.

As I expected the Holy Land is currently a A shit show with that stupid idiotic Commission.this has the potential to be worse than otl...

I love how incompent literally everyone is in this mess, although I have to say I'm really sorry for the Monk.

All he wanted was to sit in the shade.:biggrin:

Ah the Short Victorius War strategy...Go ask the Russians in 1905 how that turned out...

Quite so. Have I mentioned how much I appreciate your detailed comments? It's nice to see someone taking the time to really read my work.:)

So even more repressed than otl...where are the Irish Exiles sent anyways?

America is popular. Australia and New Zealand. Often places like India or Drakia or the East Indies where being white is more important than being Protestant.
 
A complete list of British dominions;
It's a working system- like I mentioned before having independent or semi-independent countries that are economic satellites instead of colonies is basically how American imperialism and (modern) French imperialism work/ed. The downside is that sooner or later Nicaragua or Algeria will get fed up and try to reassert their independence.

Regarding India, you'll note that most of the immigration to Drakia isn't from Britain- it's from America or France or Brazil or even Germany. Immigration to India is only marginally lower than OTL, the Anglo-Indian community is a lot more willing to accept mixed-race Indians as equals than the Drakaians are Coloreds, the Indian Princes certainly play a role, and as for their rule sticking...

Well they've always been able to count on British intervention if things started to go sour.

This seems like it could have interesting effects. Especially if the Anglo-Indian Community remains in power but starts to look towards Delhi and Calcutta rather than London for their interests.

Though it is unlikely much too changes from OTL.
 
World War Dice
Right. I still can't find my dice, so we're going to use Google again for this. We're going to roll for the alliances as a whole and then for the individual members. I'll work out what the numbers mean using the highly scientific; "this is how it feels" system.

For the Entente as a whole:
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For France:
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Uh oh.

For Russia:
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I swear the dice just did this on its own.

For America:
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Libertas et Imperium.

For Italy:
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Oh, poor Italy.

For Japan:
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Better, if marginally.

I'm not going to roll for the minor Entente countries.

Now the Central Powers;
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Oooh! Not a good night for anyone.

Britain;
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They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

Germany;
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Well Germany certainly handled France and Russia at least.

Austria;
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"..."

Bavaria;
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Rhomania;
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Basileia Rhōmaiōn!

Phew, that was interesting. Now to reflect it in the narrative...

EDIT: I totally forgot the other co-star of this TL;

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For Drakia.
 
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