Separated at Birth: America and Drakia

[pattontank12]

So is it just me or does it feel like these would be a perfect fit for Drakian uniforms? The first one looks great thanks to the Dragon spawns fascination with classical Greece and Rome, I could even see their riot shields having classical inspired slots only instead of spears it's for submachine guns.

Also this little gem seems perfect for the United States space branch or agency once the space race kicks off.

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[Slan]

So is it just me or does it feel like these would be a perfect fit for Drakian uniforms? The first one looks great thanks to the Dragon spawns fascination with classical Greece and Rome, I could even see their riot shields having classical inspired slots only instead of spears it's for submachine guns.

Also this little gem seems perfect for the United States space branch or agency once the space race kicks off.

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The armor would be too hot.

I imagine them more like those Rhodesian soldiers with shorts, like if they were evil Australians, it feels more real (not that Aussies didn't do fucked up shit too).

 

[pattontank12]

The armor would be too hot.

I imagine them more like those Rhodesian soldiers with shorts, like if they were evil Australians, it feels more real (not that Aussies didn't do fucked up shit too).

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Very true. Though I was thinking that the guys would be more like internal riot police and swat officers with some secret police/death squads thrown in.

Yeah I see the regular military looking more something out of OTL South Africa and Rhodesia with some Soviet and latin American influences.

 

[Slan]

Though I was thinking that the guys would be more like internal riot police and swat officers with some secret police/death squads thrown in.

Yeah, this makes sense.

 

[Born in the USSA]

So is it just me or does it feel like these would be a perfect fit for Drakian uniforms? The first one looks great thanks to the Dragon spawns fascination with classical Greece and Rome, I could even see their riot shields having classical inspired slots only instead of spears it's for submachine guns.

Also this little gem seems perfect for the United States space branch or agency once the space race kicks off.

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That's a damn sexy space uniform

 

[pattontank12]

That's a damn sexy space uniform

Darn right. Needless to say I'm definitely looking forward to this timelines space race and how much farther it might go than ours.

 

[Simeon]

As per the suggestions submitted, I thought of the Philippine Constabulary and its Metropolitan Command when thinking of their standard office uniforms. Just replace these folks with white men.

1950's

The military at New Kinshasa suppressing agitated national rioters.

Riot squad briefing in the Second Crucible

Considering the sorry quality of Stoker-era Drakian industry, I think that non-flashy uniforms and decrepit and cheap machineries such as the Philippine Jeepney would be the armed forces and their setting's appropriate representations.

I also considered showing the cowboy-hatted earlier uniforms of the constabulary, but ultimately decided against it as it would look too "American." Pith helmets would be the rule of the day, of which I found one which could be unironically used for bonded and national units:

 

[fernerdave]

I figure the Bondsmen would be in more Public Housing estates.

Theres more room in Africa than Hong Kong for options, tho the compounds mentioned in the books looked in my mind like huge concentration camps that wernt so fixated on killing lots of people.

 

[fernerdave]

The armor would be too hot.

I imagine them more like those Rhodesian soldiers with shorts, like if they were evil Australians, it feels more real (not that Aussies didn't do fucked up shit too).

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Only in the 1970s would some dude go to war in short shorts.

 

[pattontank12]

Theres more room in Africa than Hong Kong for options, tho the compounds mentioned in the books looked in my mind like huge concentration camps that wernt so fixated on killing lots of people.

I'm picturing giant brutalist housing complex's mixed with Russian styled gulags and labor prisons.

 

[Simeon]

I'm picturing giant brutalist housing complex's mixed with Russian styled gulags and labor prisons.

Meh, that would be stoker-era. I suppose it would also include lecture halls now and equipment much needed for instruction.

 

[pattontank12]

Weapons and vehicles of the United States of America

 

[Simeon]

I doubt if they would still need a semi-automatic gun if the military already has an m-16 equivalent. Non-automatic weapons would be best reserved for bolt-action sniper rifles. Otherwise, that can be representative of TTL's US military, if we'd only reduce the wood on the guns.

Now I wonder what are the apt equipment for the Drakian army. I'll look at the internet for a moment.

 

[pattontank12]

I doubt if they would still need a semi-automatic gun if the military already has an m-16 equivalent. Non-automatic weapons would be best reserved for bolt-action sniper rifles. Otherwise, that can be representative of TTL's US military, if we'd only reduce the wood on the guns.

Now I wonder what are the apt equipment for the Drakian army. I'll look at the internet for a moment.

A lot of Soviet and Warsaw Pact stuff probably with some obligatory British and German stuff mixed in.

 

[Simeon]

obligatory British and German

I doubt it would be. The Drakian industrial complex is too far removed from its British progenitor already.

Maybe, just maybe, we can pick the shittier (not dysfunctionally though) and long-obsoleted OTL equipment of all sides, preferably the ones that are effective at COIN.

 

[pattontank12]

I doubt it would be. The Drakian industrial complex is too far removed from its British progenitor already.

Maybe, just maybe, we can pick the shittier (not dysfunctionally though) and long-obsoleted OTL equipment of all sides, preferably the ones that are effective at COIN.

Maybe a Lee Enfield sniper rifle?

 

[pattontank12]

Thinking on United States weaponry with the advent of the Japanese-American War and the second American-Drakian War would of scene American weapons getting geared more towards ease of manufacturing. Similar to how the Soviets continually improved the manufacturing process of the T-34 over the course of World War 2.

Going from a pseudo Thompson to this

 

[viper23]

Thinking on United States weaponry with the advent of the Japanese-American War and the second American-Drakian War would of scene American weapons getting geared more towards ease of manufacturing. Similar to how the Soviets continually improved the manufacturing process of the T-34 over the course of World War 2.

Have you considered the AR-18 for what a late war production-optimized assault rifle might look like?

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I doubt if they would still need a semi-automatic gun if the military already has an m-16 equivalent.

Designated Marksman Rifle, of which a number were based on prior-issue battle rifles.

Otherwise, that can be representative of TTL's US military, if we'd only reduce the wood on the guns.

Plywood was good enough for the AK.

Otherwise, there's the USGI synthetic stocks:

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These stocks were installed in M14s starting in 1962 but not widely introduced before its replacement in 1967, and of course the AR-10 was using fiberglass furniture as early as 1956. ITTL these might be available much earlier.

 

[pattontank12]

I can Drakia having mock gladiator fights.

 

[Slan]

I can Drakia having mock gladiator fights.

I hope this is canon.