Separated at Birth: America and Drakia
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That's probably just about how the "straight Societism" route would go-- as failing a task disqualifies you from being a super-human, the biggest failure would necessitate the biggest restructuring. However, by that point the ideology may be too discredited among its core following for that following to also accept the idea that they are not only fallen from grace, but have become Servitors. Of course that's not a problem if they're all dead, and I think that's the scenario where "straight Societism" or a parody of it is most likely. The whites are shunted off the stack and everyone else moves up one space. But even then, the collapse of the ideology's flagbearer would cast a shadow over all ill-thought revival attempts.
I think any sort of African ascendancy that wants to "try something new" would have to bring in the rhetoric of human rights, as there is no other idea that will simultaneously elevate the Servitor and assuage the Drakians' anxieties about whether God will punish them for failing (and their version of God definitely would). However, even though there is a new clique with new ideas, new opportunities for the oppressed majority and basic guarantees of security/peace for the dethroned minority, the new government may still indulge in the vices of the old. The Drakian army dissolved in favor of an African Revolutionary Guard Corps with similar influence over governance as the predecessor institution, cult of personality is partly revived but with new titles like "Guarantor of Peace and Positive GDP", enduring inequality is glossed over. And as its authority is doubted, it doubles down. Because the new Africa, like the old, has clear (if different) preferences-- in some ways conservative and in some ways revolutionary... I guess if Drakia is apartheid South Africa this would be like funhouse-mirror modern South Africa.
The difference between the two scenarios comes down in part to whether merit is considered individual or racial, as Drakian thought makes some concessions to individual merit within a general attitude of racial merit. It's possible that ANC-route Africa could make the argument that because some whites are very good at governing a continental superstate while others are not, race is near-meaningless as a measurement of individual merit. The ultra optimist scenario could be that they believe merit can change over time and with life circumstances, but this could be a bridge too far. If Africa collapses into several successor states you'll probably see tropical Africa where white settlement is least frequent and the princes are most influential attempt to go straight-Soc while para-ANC tendencies are stronger in the south and Med Coast.
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Aside from the looming Drakian collapse, with Russia essentially unable to defend itself, or even sustain itself, how would it be divided on the long run? I bet ethnic cleansing would do a number on Eastern Europe since they would be mostly sent to Drakia instead of Siberia. Would European Russia be homogeneously Russian on the long term?
Aside from that, would the East Asian Confederation have any designs for the regions? This is the high time for them to establish a Green Ukraine and even liberate Central Asia to form the real "Asian Confederation."
Aside from that, would the East Asian Confederation have any designs for the regions? This is the high time for them to establish a Green Ukraine and even liberate Central Asia to form the real "Asian Confederation."
I have a feeling that the prosthetics industry is going to make a big leap in the coming years with all of the war veterans across the globe. Eho probably lost a limb or two in combat that'll be returning home, not to mention the injured civilians from enemy bombings.
With TTL's advancement in of electronics, we would sensibly see cyborgs by the time (or if) the next Great War comes in the late 70's or 80's.
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FTFW
Honestly, the East Asian Confederation must now conjure plans to restore the Empire before Drakian forces roflstomp them all from Siberia, because while Russian industry is destroyed for generations, the Drakians would surely have helped building Siberian infrastructure for the logistics.
So basically, the new Panasian/Muslim bloc contains India, Korea, Manchuria, China, all South Asian countries (equivalent of OTL Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Siam, Malaya and Indonesia), and Persia right ?
I don't think any of the participants from the Great Wars, even Drakia and India, will be going to war anytime soon. Too much has been expended in all aspects of their state to fight at this point.
I can't remember, have we ever been told which sports are popular in Drakia? I mean, aside from the probably existent perversion of the already fucked up concept of Roman Gladiatorial Arenas, I really think those guys are not above that.
Chariot races, rugby, football, crickett, wrestling, archery and fencing?
Maybe Baseball? It was OTL played during the US Civil War by both sides, so maybe the ex Confederates could have brought it as well.
Would it be seen as a cross-cultural thing or a thing to be reviled along the abominable side it would be associated to?
Besides, the original Drakians have themselves established well before Baseball was codified, and their violent schools would ensure that violent games would be a norm than that run-round-the-field sport.
If thats true I don't know why they would like Cricket. Its similar to Baseball after all.
I do wonder with the wave of Confederate immigration if we'd have something similar to the Brazilian Confederos population.
He refused to leave Turkey, but his successor remains the ceremonial leader of the Turkish government-in-exile and an important religious leader for the Turkish diaspora and a some non-Turkish Sunni communities that recognize his leadership.
Thank you!
I think the best compliment I can give this chapter is that it left me wanting more stories about, say, the veterans march to topple the Dutch Nationalists, or what life is like in the new Confederation of East Asia. Also, we have definitely always been at war with Eastasia.
1984 references are par the course with me.
And I would certainly be open to reader contributions about the Silent Revolutions!A very nice analysis.
I won't pretend that I'm not letting my personal views influence this TL- democracies or government systems with democratic elements are capable of changing and reforming with minimal violence and disruption. The more authoritarian a system the less it's able to adapt in the face of popular demands.
Danke! You bet New York was laughing it up while they watched the Japanese Empire tear itself apart.
A lot of the Chinese in the Confederation are former collaborators who fled north when the Chinese Republican Army rose up. They face a fair amount of distrust.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
All three of the Confederation's member states have equal representation in the East Asian Assembly, and there's a non-voting delegation for Japan.The plan is to talk about Russia in the next chapter, but they got mulched in the Great Patriotic War. They're working on rebuilding but European Russia (plus the Ukraine, Belarus, etc.) is devastated and will be for a long time to come.
China. The capital is in Nanjing though.
Not much interest among South Americans in moving to Europe, but a lot of (non-Russian) Eastern Europeans and Turks have been welcomed into the free parts of Europe where they help to make up those losses. Quite a few Arabs as well.
Prosthetic technology has been advancing quickly and they're getting close to semi-cyborgs like we have in present day OTL.
Ay, good point. There are Antarctic claims, I just haven't been showing them because Antarctica is pretty irrelevant ITTL.
Yes, except the Confederation of East Asia (Korea, Manchuria, and Mongolia) isn't actually a member of the Jakarta Pact and is merely friendly with it.
Good idea, I'll give it a thought.
No gladiatorial fights, but boxing and wrestling and very big. Drakia also practices a version of football that's closer to the roots of medieval football than association football (soccer), descended from the same ancestors as old division football. Archery's also big, as is chariot racing.
They ended up in Drakia.