Skallagrim
Banned
There's "making hard choices" and there's "being a monumental dick", and most of the leading politicians in this timeline qualify for the latter category.
Separated at Birth: America and Drakia
- Thread starter Ephraim Ben Raphael
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I wouldn’t mind it going a bit into outer space
Maybe to the moon with Mars being the equivalent of the originals Kuiper belt
Regarding space I think it would be cool for a Space Race between thee two with both sending men to the Moon and eventually astronauts from both sides end up meeting on the Mars but one of the sides' spaceship has crashed and is unable to go on a return journey to Earth so they raid the other's spaceship resulting in a firefight ending with everyone dying on Mars. This sparks the last war between Draka and the USA.
Femto
Banned
I would be happy with the final apocalyptic fight in Earth then is done and the victors inherits the planet.
It looks like Russia is actually worse off than OTL. For all that can be said about the atrocities of the Soviet Union, they did not pursue a deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing akin to what's happening in Societist Russia; nor did tens of millions die due to forced deurbanization/deindustrialization. The atrocities of the Khmer Rouge were transplanted to the largest country in the world. Damn.
Rex Germany experienced practically the same strategic issues as OTL German Kaiserreich/Nazi Germany. No matter how well-trained your NCOs are or how flexible your military doctrine is, a country the size of WW1 Germany+Austria cannot subjugate Europe through military might. Once the Rex invaded Russia they ensured Russian enmity and thereby made their encirclement by the Societists complete. The arrogance of the German elite to presume that their alliance could knock out Russia (even as crippled as it was) before Stoker would swoop in to defend Drakia's biggest partner, was foolish. Now Germany has a new government that has accepted a bad peace. The economies of the Pact are as exhausted as the Central Powers in OTL post-WW1. Unless the dice are incredibly favorable to the Germans, Germany can no longer decide the fate of Europe. Could they ever? Now it is up to the US and Drakia to decide Europe's fate. Once more is Europe's fate decided by exterior superpowers. Europeans should tremble and hope more fervently than the liberated of OTL WW2 that it is the Americans who arrive in their city or village, and not the other guys.
Rex Germany experienced practically the same strategic issues as OTL German Kaiserreich/Nazi Germany. No matter how well-trained your NCOs are or how flexible your military doctrine is, a country the size of WW1 Germany+Austria cannot subjugate Europe through military might. Once the Rex invaded Russia they ensured Russian enmity and thereby made their encirclement by the Societists complete. The arrogance of the German elite to presume that their alliance could knock out Russia (even as crippled as it was) before Stoker would swoop in to defend Drakia's biggest partner, was foolish. Now Germany has a new government that has accepted a bad peace. The economies of the Pact are as exhausted as the Central Powers in OTL post-WW1. Unless the dice are incredibly favorable to the Germans, Germany can no longer decide the fate of Europe. Could they ever? Now it is up to the US and Drakia to decide Europe's fate. Once more is Europe's fate decided by exterior superpowers. Europeans should tremble and hope more fervently than the liberated of OTL WW2 that it is the Americans who arrive in their city or village, and not the other guys.
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I think the Drakians will need to do some changes to the society post war. Possibly look into some sort of automation or labor reform for the military industries.
Well I found this little gem about Draka rank insignia's.
https://www.deviantart.com/alkar555/art/Rank-insignia-of-the-Domination-of-the-Draka-650842339
https://www.deviantart.com/alkar555/art/Rank-insignia-of-the-Domination-of-the-Draka-650842339
I really want to see space colonies on Luna and Mars by the end of this timelines twentieth century. Which might be to much of a stretch considering this world is more advanced and industrialized than OTL, already being at a roughly early cold war level by the 1930's.
Zek Sora
Donor
Only trouble with those is it's a bit difficult to tell them apart unless you're up close examining them.
Also, Chiliarch? Sounds like the title of a regional manager for Chili's.
That doesn't make it any less amusing to a modern ear.
Quite so.
That's what makes it fun.
Thank you!
This is certainly true. The Pan-European Pact agreed to peace due to exhaustion, but if they see an opportunity then they might very well jump back in.
Next chapter, once we've dealt with the Great Pacific War.
They only agreed to a ceasefire because their economies were collapsing and large parts of their countries were contaminated with chemical and biological weapons due to strategic bombings. They haven't stopped hating Drakia or wanting to "liberate" Europe.
The "hard men making hard choices" trope is one of my least favorite. Drakia's handicapping of hostile civilians actually undermined its war effort, and the Pan-European treatment of occupied Russia is the result of an extremist ultra-nationalist ideology taking out its frustration over losing on helpless people. Had France not intervened and had the Second Draco-American War not broken out, they would have lost despite the Tamerlane Decree.
He's fun to write.
The Great Pacific War hasn't been going too well for New York- we'll address it in the next chapter. Let's just say that there's a reason why the Rex decided that dropping out of the war was their best option despite America now being involved.
I will take this as a compliment.
Societist Russia is a lot worse than the USSR and they will never entirely recover from what was done to them under the Rodinists.
This is an excellent analysis of the situation. The Germans were counting on Drakia not intervening due to its ideological differences from the Rodinists and due to being distracted by Spain. When it came down to it however, they just didn't have the resources and Europe remains one front for the clashing influence of superpowers instead of a source of superpowers in its own right.
I thought my joke was pretty obvious when I said the "while hard" part. I tend to have a more love hate relations with that trope, mostly because I like to write pointlessly evil factions and seeing said factions wallowing in their self made misery.
Pretty sure the last GPW updatr confirmed that New York lost that war. In universe there was just to much against the US. With Navy command being gutted, and the subsequent loss of Allies.
Japan pyrrhic victor of GPW, with all major cities battered and losses comparable to OTL Soviet WWII losses. And a bigger empire, but possibly restive colonies.
India true victor.
India true victor.
This seems fairly accurate; I imagine it'll take Japan a hot minute to get back on their feet, with probably much support from their Asian allies; a successfully prosecuted war against the Americans will instill a new level of confidence in the Asian powers. Hopefully they don't get too fool hardy, and do something dumb.
I wonder if there's any internal issues within the alt-CoProsperity Sphere? The radical left was hijacked and subsequently strangled in its crib by various factors, but I could see China being the main weakpoint here. India probably has a vested interest in keeping them down, not to mention Japan's own interests in China. How does China feel about the war?