Separated at Birth: America and Drakia

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4WantofaNail said:
I have a feeling this is going to be a painful half victory in which Drakia gains some impressive wins tactically but fucks up in a more strategic sense, which sows the seeds for a general collapse. I really, really doubt they're going to roll over the US for example.
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Yeah no. It's European opponents have ceased to exist, America and India are completely out of the game, probably forever, and China is only barely holding on. Drakia and it's allies will comfortably be able to absorb Europe, and probably even recolonize Britain altogether.

EDIT: Well I guess it's not totally a free lunch.

It's entirely possible that Aurica still gets blasted to pieces by Chinese bombs, and seeing as they have no real way of contesting the moon the alliance's lunar bases can potentially keep shooting rocks at Drakia if they have any space guns there.
 
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AnonymousSauce

viper23 said:
"
My fellow Americans--

No.

My fellow free men...."

"
...We have lost much to the Dragon; and we will lose more yet.

The Dragon knows we cannot be allowed to stand tall again. Where free men think, neither slave nor master can comprehend. Where free men labor neither slave nor master can equal. And where free men fight, neither slave nor master can overcome.

The Dragon knows: he must snuff us out, now, or in a decade or a century or however long it takes, we will snuff him out. The Dragon must come now, and the Dragon will come now.

I cannot promise victory. I cannot even promise vengeance.

But I can promise you this:

The Dragon will come.

And we will fight.

We will fight them on the beaches; we will fight them on the plains; we will fight them in the mountains, and the valleys; we shall never surrender.

We will fight such that should democracy live yet for a thousand years, men shall still say: 'this was their finest hour'...
"

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The following message is broadcast at the request of the United States Navy.

At five-three-one, AM, Eastern Standard Time, a Drakian fleet of large size was detected off the Georgia coast. It is believed that they are landing at the following locations..."

"...All reservist or Home Guard personnel, please report to your assigned post, or to your nearest military officer.

All other residents in the Georgia area are advised to evacuate, immediately and without delay. Maintain awareness of your surroundings. Take only essential supplies, and a battery powered radio..."

"
'If we are to die, then...as Jesus died to make men holy...Let Us Die to Make Men Free.

Amen.'

'A-MEN!'
"
--Radio intercepts off the Eastern Coast of North America (Province of Lee), USN Nautilus, March 9, 1985
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Shock

Shock

Carismastic said:
Was it really necessary for the Pact to get a + 5 modifier for the vaccines instead of simply not having a - 5 malus?
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This is something I actually agree with, as it almost makes the Pact bonus +10, since everyone else has theirs cut by 1/4.

In the end it doesn't have many massive effects though.
 

Steelers94

Shock said:
This is something I actually agree with, as it almost makes the Pact bonus +10, since everyone else has theirs cut by 1/4.

In the end it doesn't have many massive effects though.
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Yeah with how the bonuses and maluses were set up the AfD would've had to crit and the Pact fumble their to have had a AfD victory. Also there should be a decent chance of the Stone Dogs either failing or mutating in a way that renders the vaccines useless.
 
Whiteshore

Whiteshore

Steelers94 said:
Yeah with how the bonuses and maluses were set up the AfD would've had to crit and the Pact fumble their to have had a AfD victory. Also there should be a decent chance of the Stone Dogs either failing or mutating in a way that renders the vaccines useless.
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Seems like the truth is, for the AfD, the game was rigged from the start against them.
 
Shock

Shock

karatachi said:
They wouldn't be collapsing but they'd still be affected. (Floor 10)
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The floor confused me, but I also have been very irritated today due to completely unrelated things, so I assume I was flustered and didn't read it right.

Was the floor different for all types of nations? I thought there was a baseline floor of 10? But then Nam Viet had a floor of like 6 or such.

Regardless, EBR is going to give a great story. There's a reason he put the floors and buffs, and he's given a great story so far, so I have no reason to doubt him.
 

free115

Whelp the folks that die during the war are the lucky ones thats for sure. Also as tragic as the AFD losing to the snakes is, @Ephraim Ben Raphael's work has always been about a realistic Drakaverse. The Dragon's victory was always a likely outcome.
 

General Tirpitz

It seems Drakia, even if they will get through of this pandemic of their own making, might be creating an excuse for a certain country to conduct the greatest situation the world has ever seen.
 

General Tirpitz

Whiteshore said:
China burning Drakia down in nuclear flames, anyone?
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I think it still possible at this stage that even if the Drakian military and intelligence services already know about the bomb, they haven't realized the full meaning of that and haven't really implemented that fact into their planning. And seeing how the leadership has gone to the deep end themselves, it's quite possible that they haven't taken warnings they have gotten too seriously. "Chinese have big bombs, so what? We also have those." This in particular if Drakians' understanding of nuclear physics is still somewhat sketchy and they don't believe China would be able to be so much ahead of everyone else.
 
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Thoresby

Well those were not helpful dice rolls for the cause of freedom. Though I would quibble with the US being in the list as America rather than the US which is far more common as a name. Britain on the other hand should be Britain or maybe Great Britain as the Union between Britain and Ireland has been over for a considerable period of time so UK would no longer apply.
 

Thoresby

General Tirpitz said:
I think it still possible at this stage that even if Drakian military and intelligence service already know about the bomb, they haven'trealized the full meaning of that and haven't really implemented that fact into their planning. And seeing how the leadership has gone to the deep end themselves, it's quite possible that they haven't taken warnings they have gotten too seriously. "Chinese have big bombs, so what? We also have those." This in particular if Drakians' understanding of nuclear physics is still somewhat sketchy and they don't believe China would be able to be so much ahead of everyone else.
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Drakia takes out the AfD only to get nuked into oblivion leaving the oldest continuous civilisation in the world left in charge of the ruins.
 
Whiteshore

Whiteshore

China rolled an 11. Assuming that there are 900 million Chinese and a 11 roll means that a third of these are dead, that still leaves behind 600 million Chinese. On that note, assuming 800 million Indians and a 35% death toll, 520 million Indians are still alive.
 
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