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Ah my bad. Sorry. Brain fart. It's getting late. As much as the tension has build I gotta go to bed soon. See you in the morning, hopefully along with EBR's horrible revalations.
 
@Ephraim Ben Raphael I can roll the dice for your TL's if you want a really depressing TL. You might eventually want to invert the scale if I'm ever doing that, but you'll have nothing but 1s through maybe the occasional 10.

If we have another round of dice, I think I will abstain :)
 
It is only proper that China has plot armor, Situationism best ideology!
Honestly, I would stick with something less goofy. They are too much on the artistic-funny side of things for me to consider them a viable option in such a terrible world.

The Alliance For Democracy are the good guys (compared to Drakia), the Situationists are the guys who are too high to care. Their inability to take things seriously is annoying.
 
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Honestly, I would stick with something less goofy. They are too much on the artistic-funny side of things for me to consider them a viable option in such a terrible world.

The Alliance For Democracy are the good guys (compared to Drakia), the Situationists are the guys who are too high to care. Their inability to take things seriously is annoying.

The situationists in China seem extremely able to "take things seriously".
 
I lied, I got a second wind.


Country​
Stone Dogs​
AfD​
Experience​
Population​
Public Health​
Underdeveloped​
Bordering PaB​
Island​
Neutral/Irrelevant​
Plot Armor​
Dice​
Total​
Modified Total​
Afghanistan​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
5​
12​
8​
America​
-5​
2​
1​
-3​
2​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
4​
-1​
Antilles(?)​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
3​
2​
Australia​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
16​
15​
Bahamas​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
17​
16​
Borneo​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
19​
12​
Brazil​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
3​
-2​
Britain​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
20​
24​
20​
Burma​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
12​
9​
Cambodia​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
1​
-2​
1​
Centroamerica​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
14​
7​
China​
-5​
0​
1​
-4​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
5​
15​
10​
Colombia​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
5​
-2​
Czech​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
10​
3​
Drakia​
5​
0​
3​
-3​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
7​
14​
Dutch​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
9​
7​
East Asia​
-5​
2​
1​
-2​
0​
3​
-1​
France​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
17​
13​
Germany​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
13​
9​
Guyana​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
11​
4​
6​
Hungary​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
14​
10​
India​
-5​
2​
1​
-4​
-2​
0​
14​
6​
Indonesia​
5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
17​
31​
Iran​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
4​
-3​
6​
Ireland​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
14​
13​
Italy​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
0​
0​
2​
0​
Jamaica​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
2​
2​
-1​
6​
Japan​
5​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
2​
0​
20​
28​
20​
Lithuania(?)​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
7​
3​
Malaya​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
19​
16​
New Zealand​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
14​
13​
Peru​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
3​
-6​
6​
Philippines(?)​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
11​
15​
Poland​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
6​
2​
Portugal​
5​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
8​
14​
Rhomania​
5​
0​
1​
-1​
0​
0​
18​
23​
Rio de La Plata​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
13​
10​
Russia​
5​
0​
1​
-2​
-2​
0​
0​
18​
20​
Sardinia​
5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
12​
Scandinavia​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
19​
12​
Spain​
-5​
0​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
2​
20​
16​
20​
Thailand​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
20​
17​
20​
Tibet​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
5​
16​
14​
Vietnam(?)​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
5​
18​
18​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
15​
12​
All of this is tentative. I've left blanks where I'm really unsure.

EDIT: Here's the table with US instead of America and UK instead of Britain.

EDIT EDIT: Made some mistakes re:underdeveloped floor. Fixed.
Country​
Stone Dogs​
AfD​
Experience​
Population​
Public Health​
Underdeveloped​
Bordering PaB​
Island​
Neutral/Irrelevant​
Plot Armor​
Dice​
Total​
Modified Total​
Afghanistan​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
5​
12​
8​
Antilles(?)​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
4​
3​
Australia​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
3​
2​
Bahamas​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
16​
15​
Borneo​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
17​
10​
Brazil​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
19​
14​
Burma​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
3​
0​
Cambodia​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
20​
17​
20​
Centroamerica​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
12​
5​
China​
-5​
0​
1​
-4​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
5​
1​
-4​
1​
Colombia​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
14​
7​
Czech​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
15​
8​
Drakia​
5​
0​
3​
-3​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
5​
12​
Dutch​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
10​
8​
East Asia​
-5​
2​
1​
-2​
0​
7​
3​
France​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
9​
5​
Germany​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
3​
-1​
Guyana​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
17​
10​
Hungary​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
13​
9​
India​
-5​
2​
1​
-4​
-2​
0​
11​
3​
Indonesia​
5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
14​
28​
Iran​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
14​
7​
Ireland​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
17​
16​
Italy​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
0​
0​
4​
2​
Jamaica​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
2​
14​
11​
Japan​
5​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
2​
0​
2​
10​
Lithuania(?)​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
2​
-2​
Malaya​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
20​
17​
20​
New Zealand​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
7​
6​
Peru​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
19​
10​
Philippines(?)​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
14​
18​
Poland​
-5​
2​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
3​
-1​
Portugal​
5​
0​
1​
0​
0​
0​
0​
11​
17​
Rhomania​
5​
0​
1​
-1​
0​
0​
6​
11​
Rio de La Plata​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
8​
5​
Russia​
5​
0​
1​
-2​
-2​
0​
0​
18​
20​
Sardinia​
5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
2​
13​
20​
Scandinavia​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
-2​
0​
18​
11​
Spain​
-5​
0​
1​
0​
-2​
0​
2​
5​
1​
Thailand​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
0​
19​
16​
Tibet​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
-2​
-2​
0​
5​
20​
18​
20​
UK​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
0​
2​
5​
20​
24​
20​
USA​
-5​
2​
1​
-3​
2​
0​
-2​
0​
0​
16​
11​
Vietnam(?)​
-5​
0​
0​
0​
0​
0​
5​
18​
18​
-5​
2​
0​
0​
15​
12​
 
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The Separateverse Book of the Fallen
The Separateverse Book of the Fallen​

-I made the executive decision that Biowarfare Veteran should be worth +2 instead of +1
-All non-Fumbles that came to 1 or lower will be treated as 2s
-Plot happened to take into account countries who did well helping countries who didn’t, my planned narrative paths, and a few other things
-It turned out that one of the countries was out of alphabetical order (oops) and once put back in order Japan lost its Crit to La Plat
-I will answer your questions (including yours @Whiteshore ) tomorrow once I have slept
-Feel free to check my math my alphabetizing skills


Afghanistan: 8
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+12 Roll

America: 8
+5 Plot Armor
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
+1 Plot (Arthur Klein’s Last Act)
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Big Country
+4 Roll

Australia: 2
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
+3 Roll

Bahamas: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
+16 Roll

Borneo: 14
+2 Alliance For Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+17 Roll

Brazil: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-1 Big Country
+19 Roll

Britain: 2
+2 Island Nation
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
+3 Roll

Burma: 22 (Crit!)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped

+20 Critical Hit

Cambodia: 7
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+12 Roll

Centroamerica: -7 (Fumble!)
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
(1) Fumble

China: 11
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
+5 Plot Armor
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-4 Big Country
+14 Roll

Colombia: 12
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+14 Roll

Croatia: 12
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+15 Roll

Czech: 8
+5 Not Worth It
+2 World Class Public Health Care
+1 Plot (Fourth Defenestration of Prague)
-5 Stone Dogs
+5 Roll

Drakia: 20 (non-Crit)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 World Class Public Health System (healthy Bondsmen are more productive)
+2 Biowarfare Expert
+2 Country of Origin
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-3 Big Country
+10 Roll

East Asia: 3
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-1 Big Country
+7 Roll

France: 7 (Non-Fumble)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+1 Plot (Isn’t Bernadotte a French name?)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+9 Roll

Germany: 3
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (The Danes Forgiven)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+3 Roll

Guyana: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+17 Roll

Hungary: 8
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+11 Roll

India: 8
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare veteran
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-4 Big Country
+14 Roll

Indonesia: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-1 Big Country
+14 Roll

Ireland: 17
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
+1 Plot (Nordic-Celt Brotherhood)
-5 Stone Dogs
+17 Roll

Iran: -1 (non-Fumble)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+4 Roll

Italy: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
+14 Roll

Jamaica: -1 (Floor set at 6)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+2 Roll

Japan: 10
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Island Country
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-1 Big Country
+2 Roll

La Plata: 24 (Crit!)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
-5 Stone Dogs
+20 Critical Hit

Lesser Antilles: 4 (Floor set to 6)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+7 Roll

Lithuania: 16
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+19 Roll

Malaysia: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+14 Roll

Nam Viet: -1 (Floor set at 6)
+2 Alliance For Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+3 Roll

Netherlands: 14
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (De Waterlinie)
+1 Plot (Scandinavian Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
+11 Roll

New Zealand: 7
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
+6 Roll

Peru: 5 (Floor 6)
+5 Not Worth It
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+8 Roll

Philippines: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+18 Roll

Poland: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+13 Roll

Portugal: 23 (non-Crit)
+5 protective Vaccines
+18 Roll

Rhomania: 12
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+5 Roll

Russia: 25 (non-Crit)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-1 Big Country
+19 Roll

Sardinia: 27 (Crit!)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Island Country
+20 Critical Hit

Scandinavia: 22 (Crit!)
+2 World Class Public Health System
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor

+20 Critical Hit

Spain-in-exile: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
+16 Roll

Tibet: 14
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+18 Roll

Thailand: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
+15 Roll
 
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The Separateverse Book of the Fallen​

-I made the executive decision that Biowarfare Veteran should be worth +2 instead of +1
-All non-Fumbles that came to 1 or lower will be treated as 2s
-Plot happened to take into account countries who did well helping countries who didn’t, my planned narrative paths, and a few other things
-It turned out that one of the countries was out of alphabetical order (oops) and once put back in order Japan lost its Crit to La Plat
-I will answer your questions (including yours @Whiteshore ) tomorrow once I have slept
-Feel free to check my math my alphabetizing skills


Afghanistan: 8
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+12 Roll

America: 8
+5 Plot Armor
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
+1 Plot (Arthur Klein’s Last Act)
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Big Country
+4 Roll

Australia: 2
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
+3 Roll

Bahamas: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
+16 Roll

Borneo: 14
+2 Alliance For Democracy
+2 Island Nation
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+17 Roll

Brazil: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-1 Big Country
+19 Roll

Britain: 2
+2 Island Nation
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
+3 Roll

Burma: 22 (Crit!)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped

+20 Critical Hit

Cambodia: 7
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+12 Roll

Centroamerica: -7 (Fumble!)
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
(1) Fumble

China: 11
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
+5 Plot Armor
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-4 Big Country
+14 Roll

Colombia: 12
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+14 Roll

Croatia: 12
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+15 Roll

Czech: 8
+5 Not Worth It
+2 World Class Public Health Care
+1 Plot (Fourth Defenestration of Prague)
-5 Stone Dogs
+5 Roll

Drakia: 20 (non-Crit)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 World Class Public Health System (healthy Bondsmen are more productive)
+2 Biowarfare Expert
+2 Country of Origin
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-3 Big Country
+10 Roll

East Asia: 3
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-1 Big Country
+7 Roll

France: 7 (Non-Fumble)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+1 Plot (Isn’t Bernadotte a French name?)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+9 Roll

Germany: 3
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (The Danes Forgiven)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+3 Roll

Guyana: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+17 Roll

Hungary: 8
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+11 Roll

India: 8
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare veteran
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-4 Big Country
+14 Roll

Indonesia: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-1 Big Country
+14 Roll

Ireland: 22 (non-Crit)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
+1 Plot (Nordic-Celt Brotherhood)
-5 Stone Dogs
+17 Roll

Iran: -1 (non-Fumble)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+4 Roll

Italy: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
+14 Roll

Jamaica: -1 (Floor set at 6)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+2 Roll

Japan: 10
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Island Country
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-1 Big Country
+2 Roll

La Plata: 24 (Crit!)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
-5 Stone Dogs
+20 Critical Hit

Lesser Antilles: 4 (Floor set to 6)
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+7 Roll

Lithuania: 16
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+19 Roll

Malaysia: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+14 Roll

Nam Viet: -1 (Floor set at 6)
+2 Alliance For Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+3 Roll

Netherlands: 14
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+1 Plot (De Waterlinie)
+1 Plot (Scandinavian Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
+11 Roll

New Zealand: 7
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 World Class Public Health System
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
+6 Roll

Peru: 5 (Floor 6)
+5 Not Worth It
+1 Plot (Platinean Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+8 Roll

Philippines: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Underdeveloped
+18 Roll

Poland: 10
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
+13 Roll

Portugal: 23 (non-Crit)
+5 protective Vaccines
+18 Roll

Rhomania: 12
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
+5 Roll

Russia: 25 (non-Crit)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Biowarfare Veteran
-1 Big Country
+19 Roll

Sardinia: 27 (Crit!)
+5 Protective Vaccines
+2 Island Country
+20 Critical Hit

Scandinavia: 22 (Crit!)
+2 World Class Public Health System
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor

+20 Critical Hit

Spain-in-exile: 15
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+2 Island Country
-5 Stone Dogs
+16 Roll

Tibet: 14
+5 Not Worth It
-5 Stone Dogs
-2 Pact Neighbor
-2 Underdeveloped
+18 Roll

Thailand: 13
+2 Alliance for Democracy
+1 Plot (Burmese Aid)
-5 Stone Dogs
+15 Roll
Wow I was way off.

Welp, Fire up the New America General Lafarge.

Wait that doesn't exist in this version? And he doesn't either?

Oh.

Oh no.
 
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