So the next update is a three-parter;

(1) a brief chapter
(2) a long interlude
(3) a "dice rolling" interlude

You guys want them all at once, or spread out across three days, or spread out across three hours, or what? I'm down for whatever.

Seeing them all at once would be cool, or spread out across three hours.

Whatever works for you.
 
So the next update is a three-parter;

(1) a brief chapter
(2) a long interlude
(3) a "dice rolling" interlude

You guys want them all at once, or spread out across three days, or spread out across three hours, or what? I'm down for whatever.
Hmmmmmmm 🤔 I do like reading it all at once but my breaks aren't that long, I'd personally be fine with them spread over the day
 
I'm fine with whatever you think is best. I'm sure some people will end up reading them all at once if it's all throughout one day, as they may be like me and only check in every once in a while :)
 
I wonder if during the Final War, we might see astronauts fighting on the Moon and trying to invade each other's outposts.
Given the nature of this world, both sides outposts are likely fairly decently armed. That said, I do want to imagine AfD and Drakia astronauts just going at each other with just the likes of sample hammers, rocks, flagpoles they’ve stole from someone else’s landing sites, or good old fists and slaps
 
While Drakia has fallen behind the Alliance in terms of technology and isn't going to be able to create their superhumans. I could see Japan ending up as the big technology leader for the Pack of Blood, thanks to the simple fact that they don't have a massive slave population they have to constantly suppress. Now factor in the likelihood of them having a similar or even larger population to OTL's Japan then they'd have a pretty decent potential for R&D. So who knows maybe all of the really good electronics and consumer goods in the Pact of Blood come out of Japan has the gold standard.

Would be pretty hilarious if any Drakian superhumans were actually created by Japanese scientists has a cooperative effort. Especially if they make it out of the final war relatively unscathed compared to the burning ruins of Africa.
So the next update is a three-parter;

(1) a brief chapter
(2) a long interlude
(3) a "dice rolling" interlude

You guys want them all at once, or spread out across three days, or spread out across three hours, or what? I'm down for whatever.
I'd prefer you to spread them just so you have more time to work on them, don't want it to burn you out.
 
So I read the whole of this TL on Friday night. I'm floored by the creativity of the world-building and it feels totally natural, not like it's shoehorned to fit an existing progression. This story in fact redeemed the entire "Draka" concept for me, from a worthless collection of Stirling's obsessions, to a useful platform for better stories.
One thought that SaB has left me pondering is how the classical past would be viewed in this universe. Briefly, my thoughts ran along these lines.


At the very least, Drakia literally calling their child-slavery program the "agoge" should cut down on OTL's disgusting Spartan-worship. But the classical past as a whole may be more tainted given Rhomania's ethno-nationalist rampage, (though I could see a smug American promotion of Athens as "the democratic example those Rhoman fanboys abandoned"), and the whole idea of "civilization propped up by slavery" may be far less appealing. Also, the Roman Empire seems to have had a pretty negative reputation until relatively recently (see Star Trek TOS), before being partially rehabilitated by the decline of the "evil, Jesus-killing Romans" version of the sword and sandal epic and, I'd argue, a growing awareness of our own imperialism leading to greater Roman sympathy. I'd wager that all of that is averted, maybe the
Republic gets a tragically sympathetic hearing, but Rome as a whole may just get typecast of a bunch of expansionistic, hypocritical, and brutal thugs. (This would cast shade on both "Rhomania" and, of course, the main enemy).

Additionally, with probably far fewer Greek immigrants to America TTL, that could prevent a "counterattack" against this negative conception of Greeks (for comparison, see how Columbus Day is mostly still alive due to the Italians). On that note, I think TTL we wouldn't have our typical attitude towards Plato (namely: "yes, his proposed society is insane, but he was a great thinker and the Republic still has value even in our politics") and something more like "he was a deep thinker, but bent his great mind towards cheerleading for totalitarianism, and his political writings are actively harmful."

Thoughts?
 
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I could see ideas that the Dark Ages weren't that dark becoming more popular earlier as a backlash towards Drakia and friends being obsessed with the classical world.
 
Actually: We know that the Pact of Blood has REALLY ass-backwards ideas on the role of women, but how good are women's rights and liberation in the AfD? China's socialist-influenced Situationism will of course be very good, but how are things overall in France, India, and the USA?

I'm mainly asking out because I'm curious how big the culture shock will be for Drakian civilians when the Free World finally comes crashing through their door.
 
Actually: We know that the Pact of Blood has REALLY ass-backwards ideas on the role of women, but how good are women's rights and liberation in the AfD? China's socialist-influenced Situationism will of course be very good, but how are things overall in France, India, and the USA?

I'm mainly asking out because I'm curious how big the culture shock will be for Drakian civilians when the Free World finally comes crashing through their door.
Well, you had the W.I.T.C.H.E.S., for one.
 
Spreading them out across 3 days is fine with me.

Seeing them all at once would be cool, or spread out across three hours.

Whatever works for you.

Hmmmmmmm 🤔 I do like reading it all at once but my breaks aren't that long, I'd personally be fine with them spread over the day

I'm fine with whatever you think is best. I'm sure some people will end up reading them all at once if it's all throughout one day, as they may be like me and only check in every once in a while :)

I'd prefer you to spread them just so you have more time to work on them, don't want it to burn you out.

Spreading them out over 3 days sounds good. Let's see what the dice do.

I'm quite curious what bonuses and maluses will be applied to the rolls.

I am fine with whatever work the best for you.:)

I'm not seeing any consensus, so I'll just spread them out over today- maybe post the dice rolling one tomorrow.

So I read the whole of this TL on Friday night. I'm floored by the creativity of the world-building and it feels totally natural, not like it's shoehorned to fit an existing progression. This story in fact redeemed the entire "Draka" concept for me, from a worthless collection of Stirling's obsessions, to a useful platform for better stories.

Thank you fp, I'm really glad to hear that you enjoyed it. :)

One thought that SaB has left me pondering is how the classical past would be viewed in this universe. Briefly, my thoughts ran along these lines.

At the very least, Drakia literally calling their child-slavery program the "agoge" should cut down on OTL's disgusting Spartan-worship. But the classical past as a whole may be more tainted given Rhomania's ethno-nationalist rampage, (though I could see a smug American promotion of Athens as "the democratic example those Rhoman fanboys abandoned"), and the whole idea of "civilization propped up by slavery" may be far less appealing. Also, the Roman Empire seems to have had a pretty negative reputation until relatively recently (see Star Trek TOS), before being partially rehabilitated by the decline of the "evil, Jesus-killing Romans" version of the sword and sandal epic and, I'd argue, a growing awareness of our own imperialism leading to greater Roman sympathy. I'd wager that all of that is averted, maybe the
Republic gets a tragically sympathetic hearing, but Rome as a whole may just get typecast of a bunch of expansionistic, hypocritical, and brutal thugs. (This would cast shade on both "Rhomania" and, of course, the main enemy).

Additionally, with probably far fewer Greek immigrants to America TTL, that could prevent a "counterattack" against this negative conception of Greeks (for comparison, see how Columbus Day is mostly still alive due to the Italians). On that note, I think TTL we wouldn't have our typical attitude towards Plato (namely: "yes, his proposed society is insane, but he was a great thinker and the Republic still has value even in our politics") and something more like "he was a deep thinker, but bent his great mind towards cheerleading for totalitarianism, and his political writings are actively harmful."

Thoughts?

Those are some interesting thoughts, and I agree that there's going to be a lot less in the way of celebrating classical Greek and Roman civilization in the AfD ITTL- particularly the reverance for Rome and Sparta that you see in some places due to its affiliation with Societism. I wonder if we would see more in the way of non-European classical cultures celebrated- like the Golden Age of Islam seeing how the Arabs have suffered so much under the Societists and Muslims are staunch allies against Aurica.
 
While Drakia has fallen behind the Alliance in terms of technology and isn't going to be able to create their superhumans. I could see Japan ending up as the big technology leader for the Pack of Blood, thanks to the simple fact that they don't have a massive slave population they have to constantly suppress. Now factor in the likelihood of them having a similar or even larger population to OTL's Japan then they'd have a pretty decent potential for R&D. So who knows maybe all of the really good electronics and consumer goods in the Pact of Blood come out of Japan has the gold standard.

Would be pretty hilarious if any Drakian superhumans were actually created by Japanese scientists has a cooperative effort. Especially if they make it out of the final war relatively unscathed compared to the burning ruins of Africa.

I'd prefer you to spread them just so you have more time to work on them, don't want it to burn you out.
are you trying to shoe horn evangelion into this?
 
I'm not seeing any consensus, so I'll just spread them out over today- maybe post the dice rolling one tomorrow.



Thank you fp, I'm really glad to hear that you enjoyed it. :)



Those are some interesting thoughts, and I agree that there's going to be a lot less in the way of celebrating classical Greek and Roman civilization in the AfD ITTL- particularly the reverance for Rome and Sparta that you see in some places due to its affiliation with Societism. I wonder if we would see more in the way of non-European classical cultures celebrated- like the Golden Age of Islam seeing how the Arabs have suffered so much under the Societists and Muslims are staunch allies against Aurica.
Plot twist: an American graphic novel portrays the Persians as the clear good guys at the Thermopylae.
 
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