Sega more successful than Nintendo.

Saturn was good in 3D just SEGA OVERENGINEERD THAT THING, seriously SATURN Was a mess and seems again sega mismanagment and petty rivalry not only killed saturn in the cradle but make the awful 32X too.

If SoJ warned Kalinski about the Saturn would be great too, the 32X was published 4 months before the Saturn, it killed the shopkeepers and the gaming companies, who simply gave up one by one to work with Sega, there was the beginning of the end, butterfly this and the Saturn would be great (the companies simply refused to have their teams learn the saturn programming in revolt at what Sega did with the 32X, because their teams stayed a year long learning the programming of the 32X just to Sega announce the Saturn in the same time of the publication of the 32X)
 
If SoJ warned Kalinski about the Saturn would be great too, the 32X was published 4 months before the Saturn, it killed the shopkeepers and the gaming companies, who simply gave up one by one to work with Sega, there was the beginning of the end, butterfly this and the Saturn would be great
32X was Kalinske own Mistake, he forgot people are more eager to jump new tech than buy addons(more when the add on is a mess to begin with) i think everyone knew about Saturn but sega being SEGA overshoot what they wanted to do and even kalinske overjump as he wanted to keep selling the ultra popular genesis.

And the Irony, the 32X is very similar Saturn basis, to jumping to program 32X to saturn should have been easier
 
32X was Kalinske own Mistake, he forgot people are more eager to jump new tech than buy addons(more when the add on is a mess to begin with) i think everyone knew about Saturn but sega being SEGA overshoot what they wanted to do and even kalinske overjump as he wanted to keep selling the ultra popular genesis.

And the Irony, the 32X is very similar Saturn basis, to jumping to program 32X to saturn should have been easier

The SoJ don't warned about Saturn to the SoA, all the logistics and that stuff in america was made by SoJ, SoJ passed over Kalinski
 
The SoJ don't warned about Saturn to the SoA, all the logistics and that stuff in america was made by SoJ, SoJ passed over Kalinski
Do some surfing, modern historical articles show when kalinske did liked the ideas, he later did regret but SoJ who as we knew bore little love their americans cousins did overpushed 32X alongside Saturn like...those americans wanted, so sell it. YEAH. Sega mismanagment, still have been better 32X never passed the idea stage(other was sony pushing early, i think SEGA of america wanted a 3D Saturn for 1995-1996 at lastest when Sega of japan wanted a 2D saturn) have lke Sun Tzu say, their drummer and soldier marched in synchrony they could have do something amazing...but SEGA fumbled it.

Read the Sega generation, half of the TL is sega figthing themselves, Sony like...WHAT I GOT MYSELF Into, AND nintendo squaring a circle...
 
Do some surfing, modern historical articles show when kalinske did liked the ideas, he later did regret but SoJ who as we knew bore little love their americans cousins did overpushed 32X alongside Saturn like...those americans wanted, so sell it. YEAH. Sega mismanagment, still have been better 32X never passed the idea stage(other was sony pushing early, i think SEGA of america wanted a 3D Saturn for 1995-1996 at lastest when Sega of japan wanted a 2D saturn) have lke Sun Tzu say, their drummer and soldier marched in synchrony they could have do something amazing...but SEGA fumbled it.

Read the Sega generation, half of the TL is sega figthing themselves, Sony like...WHAT I GOT MYSELF Into, AND nintendo squaring a circle...

The might of the Genesis in USA proved that Sega had the ideas, the creativity (mainly in merchandising) and the ability to lead the market, the problem was that Sega never had the administration that needed it
 
The might of the Genesis in USA proved that Sega had the ideas, the creativity (mainly in merchandising) and the ability to lead the market, the problem was that Sega never had the administration that needed it
Marketing not merchadising buddy(a little false friend) that was all Kalinske good fortunes, that guy knew how to market things very well, Yeah never got the managment(not administration, other false friend) and yeah you are brazilian, did you've a master system?
 
did you've a master system?

Well yes, but actually no, my father had one and i played a lot when i was 3-4 years old, i stopped of playing because my aunt come to my home and brought a Playstation 2 :p

Here on Brazil, Master System (and Mega Drive) were VERY popular, because different of NES/SNES which had to be imported, it was manufactured right here, with the partnership of Sega and TecToy (A brazilian toy company)

And the errors of translation, well, they happen :openedeyewink:
 
Here on Brazil, Master System (and Mega Drive) were VERY popular, because different of NES/SNES which had to be imported, it was manufactured right here, with the partnership of Sega and TecToy (A brazilian toy company)
yEAH Brazil and Europe were SEGALAND at the time(something we touch in sega generation) you even got that bad Phantasy Star Translation.

Yeah, still Sega Japan leadership....even with lucky break they fumbled it, a shame Okawa was just too busy with CSK..have he care more...he could have done wonder(as he wasn't as stern or strict as yamauchi, he did was a reasonable figure of authority sega surely needed)
 
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I think Sega paying closer attention to the US market might be a good start to being more successful than Nintendo. Seeing Atari's crash in the early 80's as an opportunity instead of a warning. That would mean launching the Master System worldwide or at the very least in North America on October 20th 1985, just two days later than the NES launches. That means they're not playing catch up anymore and in the fight for market share from the very beginning. As others have noted here Sega has a top notch marketing department let them come up with an advertising campaign to dazzle gamers and set itself apart from the competition. I feel the Genesis strategy would still work here if Nintendo is targeting families and younger kids make the Master System feel like the rebellious console for teens. Though Sega will need better distribution than in our actual timeline.
 
. That means they're not playing catch up anymore and in the fight for market share from the very beginning.
Like in japan.. i doubt they could beat mario..but at least knew there a market there...

Sega has a top notch marketing department let them come up with an advertising campaign to dazzle gamers and set itself apart from the competitio
Is not there yet either, michael Katz(the legendary sega genesis president) is up 1988-1990 and kalisnke is 1990 onward.
 
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