Second Southern Rising During Reconstruciton

Would it be possible to have a second Southern Rising during reconstruction, or would it be to implausible, Im pursuing it as a timeline idea and I thought it would be interesting, with nearly a million Confederate veterans, and the south actually starting to gain industry at this time, could they have risen again, and won? Or at the very least risen once more?
 

RousseauX

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There was a second rising, in the form of paramilitary groups like the KKK and other white supremacist groups.

What's more, they won, they were able to kick out the occupying federal troops through political means, restore blacks to economic conditions not unlike slavery, and restore control of the state governments to the Democratic party which guaranteed political autonomy. They shattered attempts of the reconstruction to remold southern society and the South would not modernize until sometime between the 1920s and the 1960s.

The only thing they didn't get back de jure slavery, but it's not like anyone post 1865 actually wanted that anyway.
 
There was a second rising, in the form of paramilitary groups like the KKK and other white supremacist groups.

What's more, they won, they were able to kick out the occupying federal troops through political means, restore blacks to economic conditions not unlike slavery, and restore control of the state governments to the Democratic party which guaranteed political autonomy. They shattered attempts of the reconstruction to remold southern society and the South would not modernize until sometime between the 1920s and the 1960s.

The only thing they didn't get back de jure slavery, but it's not like anyone post 1865 actually wanted that anyway.

I dont mean that kinda rising, I mean an actual Revolution, a Second American Civil War, not a de jure peaceful racist takeover
 

RousseauX

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I dont mean that kinda rising, I mean an actual Revolution, a Second American Civil War, not a de jure peaceful racist takeover
It was not peaceful, the KKK fought against black militias and federal troops, lynched blacks, and came out victorious because the north lacked the political will to enforce reconstruction past 1876.

But no, the south lost too many of its young men, a full third of military aged males was killed in the war. As far as independence goes the political/psychological will for it was dead in 1865 and with the end of slavery and the rise of tenent farming there was nothing to fight about anymore anyway.
 
The 1876 election goes worse then OTL, with Republicans refusing any cooperation with the Democrats who claim fraud, and there being riots in the South before and after the inauguration, killing many Freedmen and White Republicans. Then things get even worse as the White House is stormed by vigilantes who kill Hayes, leaving William Wheeler as President. Grant and most of the army is called back to suppress the riots and disorder, while re-cementing Carpetbagger and Scalawag rule in the South.

It might sound a bit far-fetched, but Lincoln was killed by a famous actor and escaped capture for a week, Garfield was shot in plain view by a crazy man who thought he was owed an office, and McKinley was killed by a depressed Polish Anarchist, so really anything goes.
 

Sabot Cat

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Note the qualifier "de jure" before peaceful; I don't think Ashlee is arguing that it wasn't violent, just that they were not legal acts of war.
 
????? The CSA couldnt win when it had a sizeable chunk of the US army and full support of its state governments on its side.

You propose the try to pull together an army with no money, no supplies and no logistics?

The Union reaction could easily be to hang every Reb as a traitor, and confiscate all the plantations, etc.

No, an actual military war, rather than poorly coordinated terrorism (which is what we basically had iotl), would have been suicide, and smart people like Lee knew that.
 
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