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What if the Sea Peoples manage to conqure Egypt. What effect would this have and what butterflies would result
 
What if the Sea Peoples manage to conqure Egypt. What effect would this have and what butterflies would result

Considering that we aren't even entirely sure who the Sea Peoples were (guesses range from Greeks to Iberians and Italians), who knows! We might see Egypt as we see the Hittite Empire and vice versa.

The Delta would probably be divided up between the tribes, who might expand outward, but will likely fight between each other. How long it takes for Egyptian power to rebound is really hard to guess, but I suspect it wouldn't take more than a century or two before they are able to reassert their authority.

But such an event so early will surly jumble things up, and untold butterflies will be unleashed.
 

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The best guess about the Sea Peoples I've read is that they were basically pirates of various ethnicities that banded together for raids on rich places (like Egypt and the Hittite cities).
 
What if the Sea Peoples manage to conqure Egypt. What effect would this have and what butterflies would result

First step for this PoD : find who the sea people were.

Second Step : evaluate the effect on the late bronze age/early iron age.

You have two possibilities : the sea people become the new rulers of Egypt as a foreign dynasty supported by a new caste. Or they destroy egyptian culture and replace it, leaving them to vie for power in the middle east against the Neo-Assyrian empire and the hittites.

Ultimately it is so early in history that you can do anything.
 
First step for this PoD : find who the sea people were.

Second Step : evaluate the effect on the late bronze age/early iron age.

You have two possibilities : the sea people become the new rulers of Egypt as a foreign dynasty supported by a new caste. Or they destroy egyptian culture and replace it, leaving them to vie for power in the middle east against the Neo-Assyrian empire and the hittites.

Ultimately it is so early in history that you can do anything.
Ancient Egypt had a funny way of absorbing its conquerors and making them, ah, more Egyptian, so I suspect the former is more likely.
 
If they had been able to defeat the Egyptians, they would control the delta and maybe all of lower egypt. I would say that within a couple of hundred years they would be conquered by a new southern dynasty and it would be looked upon as the third intermate period. They might do a better job in Palestine. Then we would have the kingdom of Philitina instead of Israel
 
Considering that we aren't even entirely sure who the Sea Peoples were (guesses range from Greeks to Iberians and Italians), who knows! We might see Egypt as we see the Hittite Empire and vice versa.

The Delta would probably be divided up between the tribes, who might expand outward, but will likely fight between each other. How long it takes for Egyptian power to rebound is really hard to guess, but I suspect it wouldn't take more than a century or two before they are able to reassert their authority.

But such an event so early will surly jumble things up, and untold butterflies will be unleashed.

Actually the hittites were weakened by the sea people not fell to them. What happeend is the hitties lost their rich copper mines and their trade routes were also lost to the sea peoples. This coupled with the fall of their vassals and their recent wars against the Assyrians which didnt go so well left the central state weakened nd lost its powerful mittanni vassals, so that it was unable to fight off I believe the caska and gaza people(I think) who later overan the city of Hattusha and burned it to the ground. Because of the weakness at the time given that the trade was gone and the rich copper mines taken by the sea people or in other cases cut off from the central Hittite state. So technichally the sea people did not directy destroy the hittite empire.... rather they were an indirect cause of its colapse. They did however destroy directly Arzawa which was a vassal of the hittites and Arzawa shouldnt be considered the same as the Hittites. Given that their relation was slightly stronger the vassalship than with say mittani and the hittites. Plus with the loss of Hattusha the govt collapsed and the hittite empire as we know it ended.
 
Why would the Sea Peoples settle in Egypt?

It may seem a logical thing to do, but the Sea Peoples destroyed other big civilizations before and they didn't settle there either.
 
Expect some Egyptians to retreat up the Nile Valley and establish a southern kingdom. I'm not sure that the Sea Peoples were equipped to pursue them much below the Delta.
 
Though the exact idnetity of the Sea people can't be firmly pinpointed a movement can be archaeologicaly seen in central europe as people moved south and eastward into new areas and pushed some of the inhabitants elsewhere, which resulted in these refugees going to some other location causing some of those people to search for a better spot of land. Add to that general instability caused by climatic, political and economic changes and you have chaos on your hands.
 

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The only place that actually was settled by Sea People was Philistine (the Philistines thought to be Sea People descendants). It might just be that settlements wasn't a usual strategy for them. Perhaps they often were just happy if to conduct successful raids, and return home with a big share of the plunder.
 
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