Hello. I am a wanderer from the Before 1900 forum and require as much information on why Sea Lion was an impossible operation to shut down my Wehraboo friends, please and thank you.
Hello. I am a wanderer from the Before 1900 forum and require as much information on why Sea Lion was an impossible operation to shut down my Wehraboo friends, please and thank you.
Much appreciated and do not fear, I have had to deal with constant arguments of the Werhmacht did nothing wrong, The SS were just conscripts, and the usual "they would have won if they dug in", I shall weather the storm!https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/glossary-of-sealion-threads.180901/
Be warned, the fanboy and wehraboo tends to be very strong in these threads. But there's your source the arguments the pointless nitpicking, the fan wanks, the Allied Derps etc etc.
Much appreciated and do not fear, I have had to deal with constant arguments of the Werhmacht did nothing wrong, The SS were just conscripts, and the usual "they would have won if they dug in", I shall weather the storm!
Just look at the naval balance June 1940Hello. I am a wanderer from the Before 1900 forum and require as much information on why Sea Lion was an impossible operation to shut down my Wehraboo friends, please and thank you.
This one did it for me:Just look at the naval balance June 1940
That was sufficient for me to shut up about the unnamed sea mammal , yrs ago when I started researching it
The problem the Germans have in 1940 is that wherever the British think that those river barges loaded with the cream of the German army's finest are heading, they're going to try to sink them, first and foremost, once they're far enough out that it's clear that they're probably heading somewhere which is not continental.Dumb question. Would there be any chance in a warm place that an Irish feint could be used as a distraction for a real seaborne invasion of southern England? Something like a FUSAG in reverse?
The problem the Germans have in 1940 is that wherever the British think that those river barges loaded with the cream of the German army's finest are heading, they're going to try to sink them, first and foremost, once they're far enough out that it's clear that they're probably heading somewhere which is not continental.
The British have the option in 1940 of 'try to completely wreck the invasion before they land' which the Germans didn't really have in 1944.
It does nothing as a distraction unless and until it is launched.Hence the FUSAG reference. Use barely buoyant flotsam as fake craft to distract the fleet from real landing sites. Probably wouldn't work given Plan W contingency (UK invasion of Ireland to deny Germans the island in case of landings) but that could also backfire...badly.
Hence the FUSAG reference. Use barely buoyant flotsam as fake craft to distract the fleet from real landing sites. Probably wouldn't work given Plan W contingency (UK invasion of Ireland to deny Germans the island in case of landings) but that could also backfire...badly.
This thread contains lots of good information and perspectives, and lots of very bad faith argument in favour of a successful Sealion. Some (satirically) by me.
Hence the FUSAG reference. Use barely buoyant flotsam as fake craft to distract the fleet from real landing sites. Probably wouldn't work given Plan W contingency (UK invasion of Ireland to deny Germans the island in case of landings) but that could also backfire...badly.
See, the problem is that there wasn’t any difference between barely buoyant flotsam and their actual “landing craft”.Use barely buoyant flotsam as fake craft to distract the fleet from real landing sites.
Of course not, they were bimodal vessels that transformed from landing craft to flotsam to confuse the enemy. Eventually there would have been a version 2 that could transform back from flotsam into a landing craft but the project got cancelled in favour of designing machine gun toolkits that looked like ammo boxes so the enemy could not tell when you had run out of ammo and only had your toolkit left.See, the problem is that there wasn’t any difference between barely buoyant flotsam and their actual “landing craft”.