Screw the oil industry/clean energy wank

And then Bernie McOil introduces his sedan with a internal combustion engine that is lighter and nippier and steals the whole market. This has played out multiple times in the ICE market in the OTL.
 
And then Bernie McOil introduces his sedan with a internal combustion engine that is lighter and nippier and steals the whole market. This has played out multiple times in the ICE market in the OTL.

Unless the market is screwed, this is AH, remember! National security concerns about dependency on oil, earlier realization of climate change threat etc.
 
I find it funny how hydrogen is described as environmentally friendly. it's cracked from natural gas in an energy intensive process that produces carbon monoxide. After all that it'd want to burn clean.
 

kernals12

Banned
Unless the market is screwed, this is AH, remember! National security concerns about dependency on oil, earlier realization of climate change threat etc.
Why limit it to oil? Aren't all imports a national security concern?
A lot of economists like to point out that trade interdependence makes nations less likely to go to war because they would lose access to vital resources.
 
I find it funny how hydrogen is described as environmentally friendly. it's cracked from natural gas in an energy intensive process that produces carbon monoxide. After all that it'd want to burn clean.

But hydrogen can be also made with nuclear reactor or electrolysis.
 
We could also transform carbon dioxide into hydrocarbons. We don't, because of tremendous costs.

Hydrogen production with nuclear heat is fairly straightforward process which is simply not made because lack of need. Electrolysis is expensive, but in a case where there's an abundance of electricity it becomes cost effective. I might also point out that this is an AH scenario.
 

kernals12

Banned
Hydrogen production with nuclear heat is fairly straightforward process which is simply not made because lack of need. Electrolysis is expensive, but in a case where there's an abundance of electricity it becomes cost effective. I might also point out that this is an AH scenario.
The laws of supply and demand remain the same in any AH scenario unless you want to go to ASB.
Nuclear power has turned out to be much more expensive than anticipated. If it was a good, cheap source of heat, we would see it being used in the myriad of industries that require it (aluminum, steel, and chemical production for instance).
 
The laws of supply and demand remain the same in any AH scenario unless you want to go to ASB.
Nuclear power has turned out to be much more expensive than anticipated. If it was a good, cheap source of heat, we would see it being used in the myriad of industries that require it (aluminum, steel, and chemical production for instance).

Except in France, Sweden, Germany, Finland etc... No one disputes the cons of nuclear energy, it's just that the realistic alternatives are worse. Outside countries and regions such as Norway or future Arabian peninsula of course.
 
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