Scottish aircraft carriers

Calgacus

FletcherofSaltoun said:
Onslo, from keeping up apperances, as I shall henceforth call you.

Sean Connery? An English Icon? What planet are you on. Of course, James Bond is a smaller global brand than Rab C Nesbitt, a show which conquered the world(perhaps in your head):rolleyes:

And Sean Connerys accent was clearly English, as was Pierce Brosnans? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in one of the books there is a reference to him coming from Edinburgh. I think thats enough proof. Besides either way who cares who he spies for. You can spy for nations other than that of your birth. Philby and Maclean proved that.

Look out for Hyacinth;) :D

Besides should the rest of the UK and Scotland seperate, whats to stop the Armed Forces being shared?
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It wouldn't be easy. As I said, there would be jurisdictional wrangles and suchlike. WHich isn't to say it would be impossible, just that it wouldn't be easy. I'm trying to think if there has been any recent example of a similar arrangement...
 

The Dean

Calgacus said:
It wouldn't be easy. As I said, there would be jurisdictional wrangles and suchlike. WHich isn't to say it would be impossible, just that it wouldn't be easy. I'm trying to think if there has been any recent example of a similar arrangement...
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With the proposed EU force being formed it would not make sense to fragment the armed forces.
 

Landshark

*Landshark enters the thread by driving a Chieftain tank through one of the walls*

Alright, which one of you butt monkeys wanted to hand over control of the British armed forces to the Continentals?:mad:
 

Fellatio Nelson

What was that dit about an EU army, with each nation doing what it did best?

Something about the French or Italians doing the cooking, the Germans doing the organising.... I can't recall the rest. :(
 
Fletch

Fletch

Landshark said:
*Landshark enters the thread by driving a Chieftain tank through one of the walls*

Alright, which one of you butt monkeys wanted to hand over control of the British armed forces to the Continentals?:mad:
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It'd make a change from the Americans! :D
 

Johnnyreb

I agree the fes should separate, in the proportion of about 8 (the rest) to 1 (Scotland), the proportion which reflects the respective populations.

But spies are another matter. It's normally required they work for one nation only. As implied Philby spied for both the UK and the USSR, but there is no doubt where his true loyalties lay. If you want to get philosophical about it, Cornwell's writings put forward the idea that spies reflect the nature of the country for whom they work. Our hypothetical member of the SIS or one of the MI lot must clearly make up his own mind whether his future lies in the glens, or in Whitehall.

This in itself raises a problem. If an individual who worked for British Intelligence announces his heart is in the Highlands and he is now at the disposal of Edinburgh Castle, the Scots would shoot him out of hand at once. He is probably an English plant, come to steal the Scone of Stone or whatever it is the Scots hold most sacred.

But James Bond is not a real spy, he is a film spy. I don't know why Fletch should get so upset when I suggest a stereotype for a Scottish Bond which might be comprehensible to the inhabitants of, say, Upper Volta, where the films are very popular. If you don't like Rabb, I am open to suggestions. Only not The Sacred Sean, who is now elderly, and, as Fell comments, has not lived in Scotland for many years.

BTW, I have always admired Onslow's lifestyle (apart from his clearly not liking foreign travel.) I only wish I had married the right sort of wife, so I could have indulged. Nevertheless, I have a splendid collection of vests.
 

The Dean

Landshark said:
*Landshark enters the thread by driving a Chieftain tank through one of the walls*
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Might be impressed if you used a Challenger II:D
Landshark said:
Alright, which one of you butt monkeys wanted to hand over control of the British armed forces to the Continentals?:mad:
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I didn't say hand over control to (controls shudders) the Continentals I was observing that as our neighbors join up into a larger fighting force it would be unwise to fragment ours.;)
 
Fletch

Fletch

Johnnyreb said:
But James Bond is not a real spy, he is a film spy. I don't know why Fletch should get so upset when I suggest a stereotype for a Scottish Bond which might be comprehensible to the inhabitants of, say, Upper Volta, where the films are very popular. If you don't like Rabb, I am open to suggestions. Only not The Sacred Sean, who is now elderly, and, as Fell comments, has not lived in Scotland for many years.

BTW, I have always admired Onslow's lifestyle (apart from his clearly not liking foreign travel.) I only wish I had married the right sort of wife, so I could have indulged. Nevertheless, I have a splendid collection of vests.
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Perhaps I went over the score, but its like a Canadian saying John Waynes a Canadian icon to an american, then using a drunk from a twenty year old us tv show to describe how he would be should he be American! Maybe we can agree that he is a modern British icon, whichever incarnation he comes under.

Actually quite admire the baseball cap, swap you the headband!:D
 

The Dean

Fellatio Nelson said:
What was that dit about an EU army, with each nation doing what it did best?

Something about the French or Italians doing the cooking, the Germans doing the organising.... I can't recall the rest. :(
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Ah you mean the plan is for
French doing the cooking
Germans the organising
Italians the design
British the fighting

But then you get
British cooking
Italians fighting
etc etc
 

The Dean

Landshark said:
Brilliant idea. Who wants to explain to Belgian Paracommando Regiment that from now on they'll providing the army pay corps?
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That would be better than telling The Parachute Regiment they were going to be doing the pay. They would just say "Yes Sir" about turn quick march and that would be the last you would see of them and the money.
 

Johnnyreb

Surely, Fell, that's the queen of Belgium, isn't it? The real question is, what would the Scottish soldiers do for this wonderful multinational organisation? Perhaps they could be the military police. MPs have to be tough and the Scots are used to dealing with murrrder and the like, so it seems from the television.

The second question is, what are the Americans going to think about this? Notoriously, the French are Scotlands oldest allies. This will not make the lads at the Pentagon any too happy.

If I may be permitted to rake over yesterday's coals, we (well, some of us) were talking about spies and Keeping up Appearances. I was in mid sexual encounter when suddenly Daisy, Onslow's wife, popped into my mind. She was played by the actress Judy Cornwell. Is she or is she not the sister of David John Cornwell aka John le Carre? I can't find anything on the net, but it seems a happy coincidence.

Does anyone know?
 

Fellatio Nelson

Le Carre's sister is the actress Charlotte Cornwell, who appeared in some of the film versions of his books.

According to Wiki, Judy Cornwell was born in London and she and her family moved to 'Stralia, before she moved back to the UK as an adult.
 
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