Science Fiction Movie Win Academy Award

unclepatrick said:
From Earth to the Move and Metropolis were both made before the Oscars began.
:eek: Trying to think of any SF.
unclepatrick said:
Agree with on Alien over Exorcist.
TY.:)
unclepatrick said:
I like 53 War of the World but even if Nominated, There are better films included From Here to Eternity and Shane, (Both Nominated OTL) and Stalag 17 and The Big Heat neither of which were nominated.
Agreed, not much chance it'd win. (I really, really disliked the overt religious implication of the ending...:rolleyes:)
unclepatrick said:
In my Step by Step Time line Malcolm McDowell wins best actor for a Clockwork Orange over Gene Hackman for French Connection.
I could see that (tho personally, I never liked McDowell, nor "Clockwork Orange").
unclepatrick said:
Argree with you on CItizen Kane and Falcon/ The 1940's awards are mess up. Grapes of Wrath loses to Rebecca. Bogart loses for Casablanca to Paul Lukas. Going My Way beats Double Indemnity . They were Expendable is not Nominated. Best years of our Life beast It's a Wonderful life. Hamlet beat Treasure of Sierra Madre. And Broderick Crawford won for All the King Men, and Jame Cagney White Heat is not even nominated.
:confused::confused::rolleyes: The studio system distorted the hell out of everything, it seems.
unclepatrick said:
In 1968 there is no way Doctor Doolittle can beat Bonnie and Clyde or the The Graduate.
Agreed.
unclepatrick said:
I not a huge fan of the The Sting. just about anything would a better choice.
On that, I completely disagree. I liked it enormously.
unclepatrick said:
Agree with you on Silent of the Lamb beating Beauty and the Beast. Beauty won by just be nominated.
I think.
unclepatrick said:
Agree with you on Unforgiven. But I like A few Good Men.
Oh, me too, a lot. Just hard to beat "Unforgiven", which pretty much turns Clint's entire career on its head.:eek::cool::cool:
unclepatrick said:
You like "The Hurt Locker" more than me. But I agree it a better film than Watchmen. The Serious Fantasy Film competition was Pixar Up. But there no way it would have won. It did make me care for the characters more than any Live action film of that year.
Haven't actually seen "Hurt Locker", nor "Up", but it sounds like a real winner.
 
:eek: Trying to think of any SF.

TY.:)

Agreed, not much chance it'd win. (I really, really disliked the overt religious implication of the ending...:rolleyes:)

I could see that (tho personally, I never liked McDowell, nor "Clockwork Orange").

:confused::confused::rolleyes: The studio system distorted the hell out of everything, it seems.

Agreed.

On that, I completely disagree. I liked it enormously.

I think.

Oh, me too, a lot. Just hard to beat "Unforgiven", which pretty much turns Clint's entire career on its head.:eek::cool::cool:

Haven't actually seen "Hurt Locker", nor "Up", but it sounds like a real winner.

One of the reason, I dislike the Spielberg War of the Worlds, is that Spielberg felt it was necessary to repeat the ending of the 1953 version. That and Tom Cruise character and his kids were so annoying that I started hoping the Martians would win.

McDowell in Clockwork Orange is not a nice character but he did a great job in the role.

One of the fun things, I doing in my Step by Step Timeline, is giving some awards to film that deserve them.

we are going to have to agree to disagree over the Sting. I think it was just a Big Budget episode of Mission Impossible and the ending is oblivious.
It a Fun film but it over rated.

Unforgiven was one of the best western movie ever. And more than deserved it Oscar.
I did give the John Ford western, The Searchers a Best Picture over Around the World in Eighty Days which won in 1957 and The Ten Commandments.
( I went to a religious School for grade 5 to 8 and I use to joke that I kept falling asleep around Commandment 4 or 5. Was there anything important in the last 5 commandments.

And I thought Eastwood deserved a Best Actor nomination for Grand Torino. It was the perfect wrap up of Eastwood career.

Recommend both Up and Hurt Locker.
 
unclepatrick said:
One of the reason, I dislike the Spielberg War of the Worlds, is that Spielberg felt it was necessary to repeat the ending of the 1953 version. That and Tom Cruise character and his kids were so annoying that I started hoping the Martians would win.
:eek: Sure sign the film is in trouble when you start rooting for the bad guy.:p

Can't say if it's any good; never had any desire to see it. (I've seen all of one remake that was worth a damn: "Payback", remaking 1967's "Point Blank".)
unclepatrick said:
McDowell in Clockwork Orange is not a nice character but he did a great job in the role.
No argument over a good job, I just don't like McDowell the actor much. (Something about him irritates me.) It does depend on the role, tho; I used to really hate Julian Sands, too, til he did a bad guy recently in "Person of Interest"--& it's the best I've ever seen him do.:eek:
unclepatrick said:
One of the fun things, I doing in my Step by Step Timeline, is giving some awards to film that deserve them.
:)
unclepatrick said:
we are going to have to agree to disagree over the Sting. I think it was just a Big Budget episode of Mission Impossible and the ending is oblivious.
It a Fun film but it over rated.
Taste is a personal thing, so I won't argue over it.:)
unclepatrick said:
Unforgiven was one of the best western movie ever. And more than deserved it Oscar.
Oh, yeah. It is one of the 5 best Westerns ever IMO.:cool::cool:
unclepatrick said:
I did give the John Ford western, The Searchers a Best Picture over Around the World in Eighty Days which won in 1957 and The Ten Commandments.
I didn't think "The Searchers" was so great (tho it's a really nice switch on John Wayne, an Oscar-worthy role for him IMO). I would give it the nod over "80 Days" or "Commandments", I think, but it's been awhile since I've seen Heston.
unclepatrick said:
( I went to a religious School for grade 5 to 8 and I use to joke that I kept falling asleep around Commandment 4 or 5. Was there anything important in the last 5 commandments.
:p You are going to hell. You realize that, don't you?:p
unclepatrick said:
And I thought Eastwood deserved a Best Actor nomination for Grand Torino. It was the perfect wrap up of Eastwood career.
I think so, too. It's as if Clint has taken Dirty Harry & turned him upside down, too.:eek::cool:
unclepatrick said:
Recommend both Up and Hurt Locker.
I'll give 'em a look.:)
 
:eek: Sure sign the film is in trouble when you start rooting for the bad guy.:p

Can't say if it's any good; never had any desire to see it. (I've seen all of one remake that was worth a damn: "Payback", remaking 1967's "Point Blank".)

No argument over a good job, I just don't like McDowell the actor much. (Something about him irritates me.) It does depend on the role, tho; I used to really hate Julian Sands, too, til he did a bad guy recently in "Person of Interest"--& it's the best I've ever seen him do.:eek:

:)

Taste is a personal thing, so I won't argue over it.:)

Oh, yeah. It is one of the 5 best Westerns ever IMO.:cool::cool:

I didn't think "The Searchers" was so great (tho it's a really nice switch on John Wayne, an Oscar-worthy role for him IMO). I would give it the nod over "80 Days" or "Commandments", I think, but it's been awhile since I've seen Heston.

:p You are going to hell. You realize that, don't you?:p

I think so, too. It's as if Clint has taken Dirty Harry & turned him upside down, too.:eek::cool:

I'll give 'em a look.:)

there been a couple of remake that were better then the Original. The 1941 Maltese Falcon was a remake of a 1931 film and Some Like it Hot was a remake of a 1935 french film. I like both Playback and Point Blank.

As for me going to hell. I done worst since then and I will see plenty of Family members and old Friends down there when I get there.
 
unclepatrick said:
The 1941 Maltese Falcon was a remake of a 1931 film
You're right about that, I'd forgotten.:eek: And I've seen them both, too.:eek:
unclepatrick said:
As for me going to hell. I done worst since then and I will see plenty of Family members and old Friends down there when I get there.
Look for me.:p I'll wave.:p
 
Originally Posted by unclepatrick
As for me going to hell. I done worst since then and I will see plenty of Family members and old Friends down there when I get there.
Look for me.:p I'll wave.:p


"What do you want?"
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I'd look up at your lifeless eyes and wave like this. Can you and your associates arrange it for me, Mr. Morden?" Morden and Vir, In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum
 
Beast of Southern Wild

And the biggest Surprise with this year nominations is that Beast of Southern Wild got Four nominations.
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Adapted Screenplay
and Best Actress

If you have not seen this Fantasy Film, I recommend that you check it out.
I done think that it will win any awards but I would have no problem with the Film winning Best Actress. The young girl is the Film.
 
Of the films listed and what they were up against, I'd go with four SF films that most got the shaft, in order:

1. 2001 - A total masterpiece and one of the great films of all time.
2. Children of Men - One of the most mature, well-realized, and thought provoking dystopias ever
3. District 9 - Possibly the best pure SF film ever made, if a bit too obvious as an allegory.
4. A Clockwork Orange - Great film, great use of music, sophisticated moral ambiguity, but unnecessarily graphic which hurt its chances
 
AH choices

Since this AH, I'm going with Tim Burton's 2007 stop motion animation version of the Russian novel "we".
Johnny Deep does the voice of D503 and Helena Bonham Carter does the voice of I330. Seen as a critique of the Bush years, the incredibly beautiful movie is the first stop motion film to be nominated and wins best picture and best adapted screenplay.
 
And then

In 2009 Paul Thomas Anderson blows everyone's mind with his adaptation of Warren Ellis graphic novel " Ignition City"
 
And meanwhile, back in OTL

Watchmen, even though it wasn't as good as the graphic novel, could have won best picture.
 
No, not even a 0.00000000001% chance.

If they had electronic voting back then, like they do now, all the Alan Moore nerdy fans could have hijacked the vote.
And when you put that many zeros in a probably, you also have to factor in the chance of Dr Manhattan materialising and actually mind controlling the voters.
And some of the academy members can be so dumb that they vote for watchmen just because Dr Manhattam looks like an Oscar...
 
Of the films listed and what they were up against, I'd go with four SF films that most got the shaft, in order:

1. 2001 - A total masterpiece and one of the great films of all time.
2. Children of Men - One of the most mature, well-realized, and thought provoking dystopias ever
3. District 9 - Possibly the best pure SF film ever made, if a bit too obvious as an allegory.
4. A Clockwork Orange - Great film, great use of music, sophisticated moral ambiguity, but unnecessarily graphic which hurt its chances

I think that Avatar was more likely to score the best picture win over District 9 (District 9 I think is much too gritty to have had much of a chance at the Oscars, and Avatar won at the Golden Globes. Minus District 9 in the running, it may well have carried off the Best Picture award. But the others, I agree, though I've never been a huge fan of A Clockwork Orange. (Can't argue about Children of Men or 2001, though I think Children of Men probably loses out for the same reason as District 9 does.)
 
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