Schoolkids never use paper milk cartons?

iddt3

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Only if you throw the bottles away afterwards, but how many times could that bottle be sterilised and reused before they'd have to melt it down (at which point it would probably end up as another milk bottle), 15, 20 times? Compare that to a plastic bottle, which probably has to be pulped after each use, and then rerolled.

The unfortunate thing about food plastic is that because plastic is porous it comes out a lower grade then it come in, so the plastic milk cartons you used can't be recycled into more milk cartons.
 
How much does milk cost in NZ, then? I'd be interested to know. Is it something to do with the local attitude to farming subsidies, or more to do with dairy companies or retail chains? Or still something else?

A standard 2 litre full-fat homogenised milk is NZ$3.75 at Countdown (a major supermarket chain here). I think the milk price is high because of a few main reasons:

-The best quality products (not just milk, same with fruit, wine etc.) is exported. Also, supermarkets are effectively part of a commercial conspiracy. The two largest supermarket chains (foodstuffs, who owns countdown, and another one I can't remember) acknowledge that they work together. They don't compete with each other, they keep prices high to increase their profit margins. Also, a dairy corporation called Fonterra dominates the market. Altogether, farmers rely on Fonterra to buy their dairy, and Fonterra and the supermarkets run a dairy Triumvirate. Sounds over-the-top, I know, but thats basically it.
 
A standard 2 litre full-fat homogenised milk is NZ$3.75 at Countdown (a major supermarket chain here).

I think the milk price is high because of a few main reasons:

-The best quality products (not just milk, same with fruit, wine etc.) is exported. Also, supermarkets are effectively part of a commercial conspiracy. The two largest supermarket chains (foodstuffs, who owns countdown, and another one I can't remember) acknowledge that they work together. They don't compete with each other, they keep prices high to increase their profit margins. Also, a dairy corporation called Fonterra dominates the market. Altogether, farmers rely on Fonterra to buy their dairy, and Fonterra and the supermarkets run a dairy Triumvirate. Sounds over-the-top, I know, but thats basically it.

Right, so if I calculated that right one could say milk in NZ can be 50% more expensive than in Finland. That is interesting, because firstly New Zealand produces a lot more milk than Finland and secondly Finns consume twice the amount of milk per capita you Kiwis do.

BTW, also the Finnish food market is very much owned by two big chains in a duopoly and like I said the dairy company Valio has been dominating the market in Finland for ages. I wonder if it pretty much the same for most small, peripheral market areas.
 
Back to topic, here is my sons schools lunch menu for the week:
Choice of• Popcorn Chicken • Pasta Bake Served with• Green Beans • Cucumbers/Carrots • Fruit Cocktail • Pineapple • Animal Crackers • Milk 8 Choice of• Cheese Pizza • Fish Munchies Served with• Oven Potatoes • Steamed Broccoli • Fresh Grapes • Fruit • Milk 9 Choice of• Spaghetti w/ Meatsauce • Burrito Served with• Tossed Salad • Vegetable • Fresh Zucchini • Mandarin Oranges • Rosy Applesauce • Milk 10 Choice of• Steak Fingers • Corn Dog Served with• Mashed Potatoes with • White Gravy • Steamed Carrots • Fresh Celery • Pears • Apricots • Pretzel • Milk 11 Choice of• Beef Tacos • Shrimp Poppers Served with• Refried Beans • Lettuce / Tomatoes • Pea and Corn Salad • Fresh Apple Slices • Peaches • Milk

Here are the prices:

breakfast - $1.25
lunch - $2.25
visitor lunch: $3.45
milk $0.45

Above 7th grade the lunches are ala carte and kids pay for each item so a kid could just eat cookies ($0.50 each) for lunch.
 
I remember the vile, disgusting product that was school milk in Britain in the late 50's...:mad::mad:

Hot and gone off in the summer, frozen and put next to the radiators in the winter (where it would go off too...) :mad:

But bottles were, at the time, the economic solution. Since everyone had their milk delivered (in bottles), it was just a few more crates for the local milkman to drop off and pick up. This was the time that pop (soda, for you foreign types :)) bottles came with a 3d deposit so they'd be taken back, to be cleaned and reused. So reusing glass bottles muct have made economic sense.
 
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