Scenario: Mexico and the U.S. Crush the Confederacy

I don't think "Avenge 1848" would be a seen as a motto for Max though, more like "and then the idiot made us go to war so a general kicked him off his throne". Chances are history would see it as more of a mistake than grand revanchism.

That would apply only if Max was the aggressor.

If the Confederacy is the aggressor, anyone blaming Max for Mexico going to war would be an idiot barring Max being deliberately provocative (massing troops on the Rio Grande and tempting the Confederates into a pre-emptive strike, frex).
 
1. That's what I was thinking, although how it gets stomped and what other consequences accomplish its stomping is where papermario and I are disagreeing.

2. I have no earthly idea. Considering how the Confederates were losing in the West from the beginning and how, by 1865, the Union's Western troops were in South Carolina, they're going to need to do better in that theater at least.

1) Ah. Well, how it'd get stomped is fairly easy, by the 1880s it wasn't really possible to fight a trench warfare-style contest, and assuming the Confederacy keeps its OTL tactics of headlong attacks into superior numbers by misreading how they win the ATL Civil War they make a few charges into Maxim guns and are massacred in carload lots. The end.

2) Eh, the only short-term means (and the CSA *needs* a short-term victory) is to win a Nashville-scale victory in the Eastern theater in 1862. The Confederacy's best chance to do that is probably Second Bull Run followed by a second such victory against McClellan in Pennsylvania, enough that the Anglo-French feel that backing the Confederacy would actually get them something.

Either that or have Grant die from one of his several accidents he survived during the war and without the OTL Irving Morrell analogue the Union's fucked.
 
I don't think Lincoln would accept Mexican help under any but the most dire circumstances, for one good reason; he'd likely worry that if the USA and Mexico defeat the CSA, the latter will think they could have beaten the USA on their own, and they only lost because of outsider help... which would give them incentive to rebel again later.
 
I don't think Lincoln would accept Mexican help under any but the most dire circumstances, for one good reason; he'd likely worry that if the USA and Mexico defeat the CSA, the latter will think they could have beaten the USA on their own, and they only lost because of outsider help... which would give them incentive to rebel again later.

My scenario posits a victorious Confederacy picking a fight with Mexico later, well after independence.

Lincoln is really not relevant.
 
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