Scariest States That Never Were

Wolfpaw

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If you think Mosley would just run the Empire as if he was Colonel Blimp your sorely mistaken. Mosley was far from a rapid Imperialist. He believed the Empire was necessary for Britain's economic well-being, but he had no ambitions beyond using it as a market place for British goods. In BUF policy documents Mosley says that he's going to stop schools in India teaching British politics and values, and instead glorify India's past. He was also (though this only became fully apparent in the Union Movement) in favour of handing over Ulster to Ireland and giving most of central Africa independence (too hot for white people, he said).
I'm very dubious about Mosley's actual behavior since policy papers, while well and good, don't always reflect actual events when in power. Mussolini proposed the exact same thing for Libyans and even Africans. What we got was apartheid and a regime that was even more tolerant of brutality.

Similarly with Africa, Mosley basically advocated using it as nothing more than a giant resource-extractor that a United Europe could leech off of. What independence movements he might support will make Ian Smith's look like a hippie commune.

Combine that with a United States that might threaten/peel off Canada, bloody expensive African territories, and other European states casting covetous eyes on British colonies.... Not gonna last so long.
What? The United States hasn't been serious about taking over Canada since the mid-19th century, and the British knew that. Africa isn't going anywhere because Mosley saw it as a never-ending source of plunder to fund the Metropole.
Anything to add to the thread itself Wolfpaw?
José Antonio Primo de Rivera taking over Spain. An actual fascist regime instead of Franco's Catholic authoritarianism could be pretty damn nasty.

I don't often toot my own horn, but I'd like to think thatquite a few countries in my McCarthyverse are fairly unpleasant: POTUS Joe McCarthy, Molotov in charge of the USSR, neoimperialist Britain, and more developments to come...:cool:

An independent CSA, of course. I can't imagine William Walker's Nicaragua or some sort of Ungern-Shternberg khanate becoming anything other than jumped-up charnel houses.
Also, do you think Tuchavesky could've succeeded and gain control of the Soviet Union? Assume that he's warned of Stalin's purges before they happen, to starts some sort of counter coup as the scenario. If that's ridiculous, one more plausible?
Tukhachevsky will have a very, very hard time of it. The Army was subservient to the Party, period. "Bonapartism" was something that the Bolsheviks took very seriously from the very beginning.

If Tukhachevsky did manage to somehow take down Stalin, he'd more than likely return power to the Party ASAP; he was a sincere Bolshevik, after all.
 
I'm very dubious about Mosley's actual behavior since policy papers, while well and good, don't always reflect actual events when in power. Mussolini proposed the exact same thing for Libyans and even Africans. What we got was apartheid and a regime that was even more tolerant of brutality.

Similarly with Africa, Mosley basically advocated using it as nothing more than a giant resource-extractor that a United Europe could leech off of. What independence movements he might support will make Ian Smith's look like a hippie commune.

What? The United States hasn't been serious about taking over Canada since the mid-19th century, and the British knew that. Africa isn't going anywhere because Mosley saw it as a never-ending source of plunder to fund the Metropole.
José Antonio Primo de Rivera taking over Spain. An actual fascist regime instead of Franco's Catholic authoritarianism could be pretty damn nasty.

I don't often toot my own horn, but I'd like to think thatquite a few countries in my McCarthyverse are fairly unpleasant: POTUS Joe McCarthy, Molotov in charge of the USSR, neoimperialist Britain, and more developments to come...:cool:

An independent CSA, of course. I can't imagine William Walker's Nicaragua or some sort of Ungern-Shternberg khanate becoming anything other than jumped-up charnel houses.
Tukhachevsky will have a very, very hard time of it. The Army was subservient to the Party, period. "Bonapartism" was something that the Bolsheviks took very seriously from the very beginning.

If Tukhachevsky did manage to somehow take down Stalin, he'd more than likely return power to the Party ASAP; he was a sincere Bolshevik, after all.

Okay, let me phrase that differently. Rather than him taking over, could Tukhachevsky have removed Stalin and replaced him with someone more intent on preserving the Soviet Union's military strength?
 
Perhaps some kind of economic quandary derails Russia's recovery, and the Chechen war turns nastier, meanwhile perhaps Boris Yeltsin or Vladimir Putin are assassinated by a communist, casing Vladimir Zhirinovsky to be elected President of Russia. This may not be a scary regime, more a laughable one like Ghadaffi, Hugo Chavez, or Armored Dinner Jacket, but with 20,000 nuclear weapons under his control (assuming they're even being kept in working condition) it could be unnerving.
 
Perhaps some kind of economic quandary derails Russia's recovery, and the Chechen war turns nastier, meanwhile perhaps Boris Yeltsin or Vladimir Putin are assassinated by a communist, casing Vladimir Zhirinovsky to be elected President of Russia. This may not be a scary regime, more a laughable one like Ghadaffi, Hugo Chavez, or Armored Dinner Jacket, but with 20,000 nuclear weapons under his control (assuming they're even being kept in working condition) it could be unnerving.

I have to say, someone who has publicly said that his goal is to annex Ukraine and deport the entire population to either Alaska or Siberia getting his hands on the red button is terrifying.
 
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