Saviors or the peace disruptors of all times ?

Which one of the followings do you find to have been acted the most against peace ?

  • Nazis

    Votes: 41 78.8%
  • British Government

    Votes: 9 17.3%
  • French Government

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • USA Government

    Votes: 11 21.2%
  • People who post these sorts of polls

    Votes: 10 19.2%

  • Total voters
    52
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"What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?" :D

Shit, ninja'd. Anyways have to agree here. Any power that uncaring as to stay out of every war must be up to something
 

Cook

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"What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?" :D

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Not sure why some of the following have been omitted but should really have been included.
You may have right in terms of wars' intensity or the number of people who had suffered there. The states you mentioned are good to be known, since I wanted to make an image related to the expansion in time, area and number of races attacked in those wars, to know better who is responsible for that.
 

amphibulous

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The Nazis perpetrated a war that resulted in the deaths of over 60 million people, tens of millions of which they were directly responsible for. They invented industrial genocide and utilized it to slaughter millions. They burned, raped, murdered, and stole their way across Europe. They were pure evil. No other group can compare to their depravity.

Actually the Mongols rate a close second even restricting deaths to warfare; Genghis Khan's wars killed 40 million. And Stalin and Mao came close via deliberate famine.
 

katchen

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This is not a fair comparison because there has been a France much longer than there has been a Great Britain (1707) or a United States (1789). The French have had a much longer time to act against world peace. And have they ever. The Crusades--largely a French war, the Thrty Years War, the Wars ofLouis XIV and the Napoleonic Wars. And France's role in starting World War I, egging on Russia. Plus France's colonial aggression in Africa and Indochina. The Nazis acted against world peace for a greater part of their short history but the French were simply there long enough to do more damage, particularly to Europe.
 

amphibulous

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This is not a fair comparison because there has been a France much longer than there has been a Great Britain (1707) or a United States (1789). The French have had a much longer time to act against world peace. And have they ever. The Crusades--largely a French war,

This is silly: the Crusades were a push BACK against Muslim expansion - previously the Muslims had taken much of Spain and ventured into France. And attempts to conquer Europe would go on into the Renaissance.

the Thrty Years War, the Wars ofLouis XIV and the Napoleonic Wars. And France's role in starting World War I, egging on Russia.

By "egging on" you mean "Having a defensive alliance with"? No one bears the guilt of WW1 except the Germans; we have quite enough historical documentation now to know that the German staff were planning war - although they wanted it a few years later.

As for Napoleon: he gets off far too lightly from history, but compared to Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Genghis, he was a minor offender.
 

amphibulous

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I'm going U.S. ...


Authors such as the Holocaust expert David Cesarani have argued that the government and policies of the United States of America against certain indigenous peoples in furtherance of Manifest Destiny constituted genocide. Cesarani states that
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"in terms of the sheer numbers killed, the Native American Genocide exceeds that of the Holocaust".

Bad logic.

1. The Holocaust represents only a small part of Hitler's guilt

2. Hitler has to be judged on intentions as well as achievement; the Holocaust is often mis-represented as being based on Hitler's exceptional treatment of Jews, but in fact he was planning the genocide of much greater number of Slavic peoples.
 
This isn't very funny if you know anything about the Belgian Congo; total death toll probably around ten million.

Most of that happened before the Belgians were forced to take it. It was their King who had been doing much of the actual trouble while the Belgians were working to industrialize themselves.
 
You showed up to post weird passive-aggressive trolling polls and immediately linked to a thread by a banned Nazi conspiracy theorist, who, in what I'm sure is pure coincidence, shares your IP address as well as having been banned for saying directly what you're apparently trying to say indirectly here.

CalBear gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not going to. Go away and stop coming back.
 
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