SADF without the Embargo

How would the Rhodesian Army and Air Force look without a SA embargo? Any interesting equipment in their hands. Their Hawker Hunters lasted for decades.
 
Ivan:

South Africa would have stuck with Mirages, but since they are a rather large country, if you count them hanging on to Namibia, I see the Mirage 4000 as a good aircraft for them. If you get the Saudis to buy it,

this could kick start development and lower unit cost. I see Spain, Brazil, Greece, Australia, India, Taiwan and South Africa as potential customers, and they could have it locally assembled by Atlas and integrate

local weapons and avionics, and even develop improved versions with France (Mirage 4000-9 maybe). They could go for the Mirage 2000 the same way if the 4000 dies as in OTL. I could also see them joining

the Tornado consortium as well to replace the Buccaneer in the low level and nuclear strike role with local assembly as well.
 
The Rhodesian army: I have no clue at all. I think it was a collection of all kind of things. SA was not too impressed with Ian Smith.

I am warming to the thought of the consortium elements.

Without embargoes it would indeed be possible.

It leads into another thread, which I shall be posting: How would you equip SADF in 1980's?

Ivan
 

Jason222

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Lets say that the Apartheid was never created, someone here can figure out a way to do that better than I can, how would the SADF look throughout the Cold War and today?

What equipment would they be using during the Cold War?

What would be the effect on local defense industries?

Would they perform any different during the Border War?

How would it look today?

What equipment would they be using today?
Practice this mean South Africa had been only Western country other then Israel not particle not discrimination against none whites or at least pratice appartied which only four ways first the white majority away blacks help gain independent early play major role equality happen first. All border wars happen and must history been same even the history Israel. Secound possible is South Afirca turn dicatorship real cruel one were not law in place kept social order but that the secret policy the and everything else made state true terror everyone live fear government. Black still worst often even out laws very hard raise level whites. Just look US government had to do to help black raise level whites.
Of course two ways are things put down would get ban for.
Harsh dictatorship world done nothing no sacutions defense industory might well exist might not.Military equement likley bought rest EU
White solid majority anyway that black out gain independent majority inspiring Civil rights everywere.

For the two thing get ban put down South Africa been white only country. Major effect no Darfur.
Israel relations kind same.
 
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