Russian Siberia becomes an new independent country called North Asia

I mean the style of sense that another country is colonised to be like what South Africa is, a another new country bearing its continents name, North Asia (Country) would have adopted to spoken the English language, it would rival South Africa and having trade links partners with nearby China, Mongolia, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, India, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong, and also the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe especially the UK, not sure if North Asia would work out as a fast growing western country with people businesses etc emigrating there just like South Africa has white people of European descent westernisation etc, the real modern day Siberia has white Russians itself witch Siberia is originally has it own indigenous before European Russians took over and Europeanised it
 
Siberia is just too cold and too vast to defend itself. I mean, Siberia can either be part of Russia or China, there's no third option. I don't think England or any other European power other than Russia would want to go all the trouble to colonize it.
 
Siberia is just too cold and too vast to defend itself. I mean, Siberia can either be part of Russia or China, there's no third option. I don't think England or any other European power other than Russia would want to go all the trouble to colonize it.

It is possible if you include Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria and the rest of the central asian plains.

The Mongolia can always remain a great power and retain the indepedence east of the urals.
 
It is possible if you include Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria and the rest of the central asian plains.

The Mongolia can always remain a great power and retain the indepedence east of the urals.
This could only be achieved if the Manchus had expanded northward, but even than, they're no match for Russians, Europeans were much more superior in terms of military advancement. Mongol tribes were too busy fighting each other until they finally got taken out by Manchus and Russians.
 
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One thing to keep in mind is Russia actually colonized Siberia. I mean, there was some intermixing and acculturation of native groups, but for the most part they were displaced and new communities were established. Probably no more than 300,000 people lived in Siberia before Russians settlement. Cossacks massacred some groups by the thousands, but the biggest cause of collapse was likely the introduction of smallpox and other epidemic diseases.

Generally speaking, the Siberian peoples who held up the best were the ones who were not hunter-gatherers. Tuvans and Yakuts, for example, herded animals, which gave them greater mobility, higher population density, and likely some added disease resistance.

One thing I think might help is an early introduction of the potato to Manchuria. The Potato was a wondrous crop in general for the colder portions of Eurasia, causing crop yields to rise dramatically, and requiring little work between planting and harvesting. The Spaniards picked it up right away, but it didn't really become widespread in the rest of Europe until the 18th century.

If the potato made it into Asia early, it would cause a population boom in Manchuria and the trans-Amur region. This could cause population pressure for Manchu to migrate westward along the same band that the Russians followed eastward. The Russians could still have an advantage militarily, but they would come up against much denser populations which could possibly be conquered, but not easily massacred or displaced.
 
One thing to keep in mind is Russia actually colonized Siberia. I mean, there was some intermixing and acculturation of native groups, but for the most part they were displaced and new communities were established. Probably no more than 300,000 people lived in Siberia before Russians settlement. Cossacks massacred some groups by the thousands, but the biggest cause of collapse was likely the introduction of smallpox and other epidemic diseases.

Generally speaking, the Siberian peoples who held up the best were the ones who were not hunter-gatherers. Tuvans and Yakuts, for example, herded animals, which gave them greater mobility, higher population density, and likely some added disease resistance.

One thing I think might help is an early introduction of the potato to Manchuria. The Potato was a wondrous crop in general for the colder portions of Eurasia, causing crop yields to rise dramatically, and requiring little work between planting and harvesting. The Spaniards picked it up right away, but it didn't really become widespread in the rest of Europe until the 18th century.

If the potato made it into Asia early, it would cause a population boom in Manchuria and the trans-Amur region. This could cause population pressure for Manchu to migrate westward along the same band that the Russians followed eastward. The Russians could still have an advantage militarily, but they would come up against much denser populations which could possibly be conquered, but not easily massacred or displaced.
Well, any "barbarian" north of China would always fix they eyes on China, unless the Chinese had held on to south of the Great Wall, or else China would always be the focal point of expansion.
 
This could only be achieved if the Manchus had expanded northward, but even than, they're no match for Russians, Europeans were much more superior in terms of military advancement. Mongol tribes were too busy fighting each other until they finally got taken out by Manchus and Russians.

If you proceed OTL until present day, yes your assumptions are correct. But this ATL. OTL, The Mongols were more advanced at one point than the west. They can easily adapt to newer techniques if you put the right incentive and the right leader.

Even if you look at OTL, Asian technology only was surpassed by the west by the 19th century. Before that, Asian tech can assure independence.
 
The Siberian front of the russian civil war provides a great illustration of why Siberian independence is just an idea without much strength, it's territory that would not be capable of self government, and is so vast and large that any kind of control on it's borders would be a fiction.
 
It is possible if you include Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria and the rest of the central asian plains.

The Mongolia can always remain a great power and retain the indepedence east of the urals.

Except that stops being meaningfully Siberian independence and turns into "Altaic and Turanic Empire that also happen to control a lot of the tundra to their north. It also doesn't solve the issue that Siberia is too vast and sparesely populated to keep internal control.
 
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