Russian Hitler?

Inspired by a thread asking about what if Hitler were adopted by a Jewish family and a thread revolving around the idea of Nazism in Russia.

So what if Adolf was abandoned or given up for adoption at some point in his life, brought in by a Russian family and grew up in Russia after they moved back? Could he still get involved in politics?

P.S.: could this make for an interesting TL, or is this just another garbage idea from me?
 
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You're radically changing the circumstances of his childhood to where he's going to end being a completely different person and not at all like the Hitler we know. I don't believe he was born the with the innate ability to be a populist demagogue or charismatic dictator so simply moving him to a different country won't make Russia into an alt-version of Nazi Germany.
 
Hitler gets adopted.. moves to Moscow.

later on gets deported to Siberia where he becomes a semi famous exile painter and chess player

Hitler getting adopted and moves to Russia isn't going to make him the savior of the rus for world domination.

people are a product of their environments and what they have endured. his sucked, he happened to be a good orator, with some military knowledge. ( albeit, not great, but at least he had balls.. )

if he was adopted, who knows he could have had parents that were more involved or more brutal or what ever. remove him from Austria / germany and you remove his chance at supreme dictator.

Where does his family move him too? Belarus? Ukraine? Russia proper? St Petersburg? Moskva? Kazan? Tsaritsyn?

would he be a communist. that depends. who adopted him? an aristocratic family? He might then be more white leaning. thus he he gets sent to Siberia along with many of the Volga germans or he is killed during or after the civil war.

He could become disenchanted with the Tsar if he lives in St Petersburg depending on his parents makeup and who he hung out with.

He could be a Kerensky Supporter

okay so lets say he decides to go red. yay.. he went red. where does he live? who does he know? you have way to many butterflies here. This also doesn't mean he isn't purged or tossed into a gulag at some point. Sure he could be some local official, he could also have died during the war on the eastern front.

on thing is for certain, no beer hall.. no Nazi third reich .. at least not as we know them.


now this might mean a longer term more stable weimer or a return of the Kaiser or his son or something. This would change or prevent a WW2 as we know it. this might make a more west leaning Germany that wants to partner up with France and England in the face of Soviet Russia or a germany that will align with the soviets and eat Poland up. depends on the day of the week and mileage may vary. Hitler before his political life took off wasn't important to world events.

Might prevent the Airship Hindenburg from exploding..

Germany still proceeds as it did up until Hindenburgs death for the most part.

If you remove hitler from what made him him, well.. you don't have him anymore.
 
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Hitler would be a radically different person, that's for sure.

There's a TL on this website where Hitler's parents emigrate to the United States before he is born, and he becomes a completely different person as a result.
 
Since Hitler's future can go any way....

The List of Stalins:


1917 - 1923: Stalin I (Vladimir Ilyanov)
1923 - 1931: Stalin II (Lev Bronstein)
1931 - 1939: Stalin III (Iosef Dzhugashvili)
1939 - 1947: Stalin IV (Adolf Hitler-Kamensky)
...
 
Why not have Alios killed off and have Klamath remarry a Russian.
Alios was sort of a dick, you wouldn't have to much trouble finding someone to do the deed.
Stalin's father was killed in a bar room brawl something similar could easily happen to Hitler's dad.
 
Alios was sort of a dick, you wouldn't have to much trouble finding someone to do the deed.
Stalin's father was killed in a bar room brawl something similar could easily happen to Hitler's dad.
I once had him killed by a merchant who Alios has annoyed at border control.
 
You're radically changing the circumstances of his childhood to where he's going to end being a completely different person and not at all like the Hitler we know. I don't believe he was born the with the innate ability to be a populist demagogue or charismatic dictator so simply moving him to a different country won't make Russia into an alt-version of Nazi Germany.
I'm aware, but this doesn't necessarily have to be about him becoming a ruler of a fascist Russia. We're all open to other ideas here.

Hitler would be a radically different person, that's for sure.

There's a TL on this website where Hitler's parents emigrate to the United States before he is born, and he becomes a completely different person as a result.
I've read that too, and that's another thread that inspired me to create this thread that I forgot to mention. That was a good TL.

Why not have Alios killed off and have Klamath remarry a Russian.
Interesting idea. Seeing how intense the animosity between Adolf and Alois was in OTL, it makes me wonder how he would have actually perceived this new father. If he does have a good stepfather and grows up in a good environment in Russia, then maybe a form of patriotism rises and that becomes a motive for him wanting to become a politician?
 
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I tried a timeline once where Hitler was born in Stalin's place, and vice versa. Got ax far as *Hitler becoming Wittgenstein's 'protector' ans the young priest *Stalin developing an unhealthy interest in Rasputin.
 
I tried a timeline once where Hitler was born in Stalin's place, and vice versa. Got ax far as *Hitler becoming Wittgenstein's 'protector' ans the young priest *Stalin developing an unhealthy interest in Rasputin.
Sounds interesting. Was that posted here or was it just a draft? Is there a link you could send to me?
 
Interesting idea. Seeing how intense the animosity between Adolf and Alois was in OTL, it makes me wonder how he would have actually perceived this new father. If he does have a good stepfather and grows up in a good environment in Russia, then maybe a form of patriotism rises and that becomes a motive for him wanting to become a politician?
With a stepfather who is kind and caring Adolf could be influenced very differently. I had an idea of a Jewish doctor marrying Klara when Alios died. A Russian Jewish doctor could blow that one out of the water.

Or he kills Hitler's mother and hangs for it.
Or Hitler's mother kills him and hangs for it.
That last one would seriously change Hitler's outlook on life.
Wow that would be dark.
What if Adolf Hitler pulls off a “Kenneth Williams”. Killing his father with rat poison but getting away with it due to lack of evidence.
 
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