Russian Empire aids the Union in the Civil War

MarshalBraginsky

Banned
What if the Obrenovic Dynasty remained on the throne of Serbia? The Obrenovic dynasty were actually pro-Austrian, while the Karadjordjevic Dynasty was pro-Russian. Russia would have to choose between Serbia and Bulgaria in this case. Britain and France would actually be against America's entry into the Pacific in this case, which could have the Philippines fall inevitably to Japan.
 

tallthinkev

Donor
Weren't the Russians a bit busy fighting Poland in 1863? Also there seems to be a lot of talk about Germany. I don't know how close the Germanies were at this point of time, Germany wasn't one country until 1871.
 

Magnum

Johnrankins said:
He didn't refuse because he was worried about an international incident if they got killed. After all the King of Thailand would look like an idiot if he expected none of them to be killed if they went to war! He refused because elephants are costly to maintain and you can maintain a much larger unit of horse cavalry for the same money. Since elephants aren't bulletproof you are getting far more bank for your buck.
Click to expand...


Would it have been possible to put some heavy armour on the elephants that would stop confederate bullets reasonably well ?

If yes, then they could be very effective at breaking up/disorganizing the densly-packed confederate infantry, thus offering various tactical opportunities.

If not, then obviously they're a waste of time.
 
Neshomancer

Neshomancer

tallthinkev said:
Weren't the Russians a bit busy fighting Poland in 1863? Also there seems to be a lot of talk about Germany. I don't know how close the Germanies were at this point of time, Germany wasn't one country until 1871.
Click to expand...
We're assuming te Union wins more or less on schedule and trying to extrapolate foreign policy from there taking in to account that the Russians provided aid, Britian and France leaned more toward the CSA, and that Russia is on the outs with those two powers. Intervention on the side ot the Union probably wouldn't help that last fact.
 

Johnrankins

Magnum said:
Would it have been possible to put some heavy armour on the elephants that would stop confederate bullets reasonably well ?

If yes, then they could be very effective at breaking up/disorganizing the densly-packed confederate infantry, thus offering various tactical opportunities.

If not, then obviously they're a waste of time.
Click to expand...

In theory, yes. In practice it drives your expenses through the roof. The armor itself would be very costly and since the elephants are bearing more weight they are using more calories and so are eating more, plus it may well slow them down. My guess is that the extra expense makes it even worse as compared to unarmored elephants.
 
oshron

oshron

Johnrankins said:
In theory, yes. In practice it drives your expenses through the roof. The armor itself would be very costly and since the elephants are bearing more weight they are using more calories and so are eating more, plus it may well slow them down. My guess is that the extra expense makes it even worse as compared to unarmored elephants.
Click to expand...
plus, there's the possibility that the confederates would get wise to the elephants after the first attack and set up traps to slow them down, like trenches and random pits on the battlefield if they had the time to do so and knew that the elephants were coming
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top
Top