Russian civil war with if peace is made in December of 1917

Say the Soviets made peace with Central powers in December 1917 ceding Poland,Lithuania, and Courland along with Kars region.

What would be the impact on the Russian civil war.

How the Soviets be able to crush the whites later or sooner with an earlier peace
 

trurle

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Say the Soviets made peace with Central powers in December 1917 ceding Poland,Lithuania, and Courland along with Kars region.

What would be the impact on the Russian civil war.

How the Soviets be able to crush the whites later or sooner with an earlier peace
Sooner. Red Soviets program initial point was "peace now". By fulfilling it early, White factions would lose a lot of popular support compared to OTL course of events.
 

Kapellan23

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Sooner. Red Soviets program initial point was "peace now". By fulfilling it early, White factions would lose a lot of popular support compared to OTL course of events.

Soviets had no support. They occupied the territory by force of arms, but without having won elections. Having made "Brest Peace" councils did not receive the world, as well as all their promises. After Brest approaches of the German army proceeded.
 

raharris1973

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Will the German-Boleshevik peace hold? There will be less consensus for it among the Bolesheviks themselves to go along with objections from Left SR coalition partners. Also, what economic demands would the CP force on the Bolesheviks, either in the text of the treaty itself, or afterwards? The Germans will want Russian grain, will they go seize it by force if it is not hand it over?
 

Kapellan23

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Will the German-Boleshevik peace hold? There will be less consensus for it among the Bolesheviks themselves to go along with objections from Left SR coalition partners. Also, what economic demands would the CP force on the Bolesheviks, either in the text of the treaty itself, or afterwards? The Germans will want Russian grain, will they go seize it by force if it is not hand it over?

Will not be able. As well as in a real story after "peace treaty" the German army will take Novorossiya and Malorossiya. Soviets will pay them contribution prior to a victory of the Entente.
 
Say the Soviets made peace with Central powers in December 1917 ceding Poland,Lithuania, and Courland along with Kars region.

What would be the impact on the Russian civil war.

How the Soviets be able to crush the whites later or sooner with an earlier peace

Given that (1) the German-Soviet negotiations at Brest-Litovsk did not even begin until December 22, (2) the Bolsheviks were still hoping that revolutions in central and western Europe could save them, and therefore wanted to stall as much as possible, and (3) even in February, when it was clear that stalling had failed and that the Germans could advance deep into Russia almost without opposition, Lenin still faced furious opposition from within the Bolshevik party (let alone its Left SR allies) over accepting the peace, I just don't see how peace could plausibly be concluded in December.
 
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