Russian-centric TLs

I've been reading about Russia recently, so last night I decided to see if we had any TL's centered on Russia here, and didn't notice any. How many do we have?
 
I've been reading about Russia recently, so last night I decided to see if we had any TL's centered on Russia here, and didn't notice any. How many do we have?

Some, but a few them were my TLs. That reminds me, I've got a series of PoDs that I wanted to show, but there were no takers. Here:

1) A worse Bubonic Plague in Lithuania that wiped out the pagan elements, leading to a cold response from the Catholic Church (mainly because Lithuania has a large Orthodox Christian population), prodding either Jogaila or another Lithuanian ruler at the time of the Plague to convert to Orthodoxy while marrying Sofia of Muscovy. Jadwiga in this case may die from the Plague. Either Moscow, Kiev or Polotsk could end up as Third Rome.

2) The Golden Horde adopts Orthodox Christianity and ironically enough, they may end up unifying the Rus' lands as the Kipchak Rus', or any other Rus' lands under the Christian Golden Horde. Now, with a strong unified Golden Horde-Rus' state on Lithuania's borders, Jogaila may have a better incentive to convert. Of course, Kazan or Sarai Batu might become the site of Third Rome. Actually, this could also start with Jochi living long enough to rebel against Genghis Khan and carving out his own state after he disagreed on who would succeed his father.

3) Muscovy and Lithuania form a truce with the remains of the Golden Horde from their defeats against Tamerlane and goes to war against the Teutonic Order. Once the Teutons are defeated, then the Golden Horde will resume their conflict against Muscovy and Lithuania, though the GH would end up breaking up a lot sooner.

4) Olgerd/Algirdas manages to conquer the Rus' lands and capture Muscovy, thereby eliminating the last threat to a potential Russian and Lithuanian Union.

5) Schlitte's craftsmen doesn't get arrested in Lubeck, allowing them to construct Ivangorod and thereby having Russia enter the sea trade much earlier. Also, Elena Glinskaya survives an assassination attempt on her life and has the Shuiskys discredited for her husband's death. She also lives long enough to raise Ivan IV and Yuri of Uglich, which in turn changes Ivan IV's behavior for the better. (Earlier Russian entry into the Baltic sea trade would also mean that Sweden could have an early war against Russia, or the Spaniards conquer England after their Armada wins the sea battle.) It can also mean that Ivan IV may also have a chance of marrying the interim female leader of the Kazan Khanate and avoid the bloody legend of how the Soyembike Tower came to be. The planned thread can be called Opportunity Taken: Russia's Early Rise to Power.

Another PoD that would tie in with a Russian-centric TL would be a Nestorian Christian Sri Vijaya, thanks to an exodus of Nestorians and Zoroastrians from Persia. I had that discussion with kasumigenx today.
 
5) Schlitte's craftsmen doesn't get arrested in Lubeck, allowing them to construct Ivangorod and thereby having Russia enter the sea trade much earlier. Also, Elena Glinskaya survives an assassination attempt on her life and has the Shuiskys discredited for her husband's death. She also lives long enough to raise Ivan IV and Yuri of Uglich, which in turn changes Ivan IV's behavior for the better. (Earlier Russian entry into the Baltic sea trade would also mean that Sweden could have an early war against Russia, or the Spaniards conquer England after their Armada wins the sea battle.) It can also mean that Ivan IV may also have a chance of marrying the interim female leader of the Kazan Khanate and avoid the bloody legend of how the Soyembike Tower came to be. The planned thread can be called Opportunity Taken: Russia's Early Rise to Power.
A Russian naval timeline? :eek:
 
I've been busy trying to formulate the Russian-centric TLs that I'm trying to create, and I may have some few new ideas to share, but I'm not sure if this is plausible:

1) Depending on whether or not the Huns were capable of adopting Roman laws and institutions, it would produce a result on how long the Hunnic Empire would last. I'm proposing a Hunnic split, on the Bulgarian Empire model (one where the Khazars create an empire and splitting the two Bulgar states, regular Bulgaria and Volga Bulgaria), resulting in either a Pannonian Hungary and Volga Hungary The Magyars would settle in Volga Hungary instead either by the success of the Khazars in controlling the trade routes between the Roman Empire and Persia and the Kipchaks destroy the Khazars instead of Svyatoslav.

2) Since I'm trying out a possible idea of a Christian Persia, how could a Rus' state actually forge closer contacts with Persia instead of Byzantium? It would also involve a surviving Yaropolk who would adopt Greek Christianity and Vladimir adopting Persian Christianity. Keep in mind that Vladimir was to rule Novgorod and Yaropolk would rule Kiev.

3) The England route where the Romano-Celtic role would be played by the Slavs, then Rurik comes and rules over them and then the Lithuanians would play a role similar to the Normans in England. Scenario one can still be played but the Magyars could also co-operate with Lithuania in creating a dual Magyar-Lithuanian dominated Slavic state. Kinda overkill though.
 
More ideas;

what if the slavs somehow went in other directions, or got assimilated, and 'Russia' was kept to the finno-ugrian peoples?

what if 'russia' was led, united and enlarged instead of Moscow(vy), but by what is now Ukraine or Belarus?
 
More ideas;

what if the slavs somehow went in other directions, or got assimilated, and 'Russia' was kept to the finno-ugrian peoples?

what if 'russia' was led, united and enlarged instead of Moscow(vy), but by what is now Ukraine or Belarus?

Still more ideas:

What if Russia didn't (re)unite? It's not as if having an area that big under one rule is inevitable, just meaning the lands of old Kievan Rus.

What if Byzantium survived? Yes, this is going to matter to Russia.

What if the Mongols never amounted to much (so far as Russia is concerned)?
 
Still more ideas:

What if Russia didn't (re)unite? It's not as if having an area that big under one rule is inevitable, just meaning the lands of old Kievan Rus.

What if Byzantium survived? Yes, this is going to matter to Russia.

What if the Mongols never amounted to much (so far as Russia is concerned)?

I can see a split between the two Kievan Rus' states, with Yaropolk and Vladimir. Or either Lithuania, Kipchaks, Khazars (hopefully not), or some other power (Sweden) takes control of Rus'. There was a post where Jochi created his own empire, at the spot of the Rus' lands.
 
I can see a split between the two Kievan Rus' states, with Yaropolk and Vladimir. Or either Lithuania, Kipchaks, Khazars (hopefully not), or some other power (Sweden) takes control of Rus'. There was a post where Jochi created his own empire, at the spot of the Rus' lands.

Something like that.
 
1) A worse Bubonic Plague in Lithuania that wiped out the pagan elements, leading to a cold response from the Catholic Church (mainly because Lithuania has a large Orthodox Christian population), prodding either Jogaila or another Lithuanian ruler at the time of the Plague to convert to Orthodoxy while marrying Sofia of Muscovy. Jadwiga in this case may die from the Plague. Either Moscow, Kiev or Polotsk could end up as Third Rome.
Actually at the time a bubonic plaque didn't affected Lithuania.
 
For most parts, would the Kipchaks (not the Kipchak Khanate) actually be able to spearhead the process of the Rus' unification on the eastern side should Yaropolk and Vladimir split their Rus' domains into two? I also had contemplated about uniting Kievan Rus' with Scandinavia, but I don't know if that would be even possible.
 
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