Russian-American Alliance?

Onyx

Banned
Never in history have I heard of the Good Ol' USA be friends with the Russians until the Post-Cold War.

The two had something in common during the 1800s, like British and French Anatagonism, since Russia lost the Crimea War, and the Union was angered over British and French support of the CSA
they have been good friends from what I've read. Like supporting the union during the Civil War, Sending a Famous ship to them, buying Alaska, and having better relations than the British and French (before WWI came by)

Yet, I never heard anything of them being BFFs.
So is it possible to get the Russians and Americans to ally themselves?
 
Have Britain and America go to war during or shortly after the Civil War. No matter the outcome, Russia would probably get a lot friendlier with America.
 
There was almost an alliance made between the two after the civil war during Grant's administration but it was ruined by some ass appointed by Alexander II. In any case a Russian American alliance would probably have been a minor one at that time.
 
There was almost an alliance made between the two after the civil war during Grant's administration but it was ruined by some ass appointed by Alexander II. In any case a Russian American alliance would probably have been a minor one at that time.
It was ruined by Grant being a horrible statesman and refusing to even consider the alliance even though both sides really wanted it. If you want this to happen it might help for Grant to like Russia better.
 
It was ruined by Grant being a horrible statesman and refusing to even consider the alliance even though both sides really wanted it. If you want this to happen it might help for Grant to like Russia better.

In Grant's defense there was alot of crap going on at the time regarding social policy: Reconstruction, the KKK, defending freed slaves, etc. Even at this time the affairs of the outside world had little effect America. At the time who cared about some war going on in Europe. It wasn't like the U.S. had the ability to send troops there. The most we could do at the time was some financial and MAYBE a little naval.

I don't blame Grant for not getting into an alliance with Russia. I like to remember a quote from Thomas Jefferson to reinforce Grant's action regarding this.

"Friendship is but another name for an alliance with the follies and the misfortunes of others. Our own share of miseries is sufficient, why enter then as volunteers into those of another?"
 

Onyx

Banned
He was sorta an a-hole for making an order to evict Jews from Union-Controlled Southern Areas
And though it was Johnsons Fault for not fixing any ****, I don't blame Grant, I just blame the idiots in his cabinent/positions.

Anywho, does anyone have a good idea in getting the Ruskies to become BFFs with the Americans?
 
He was sorta an a-hole for making an order to evict Jews from Union-Controlled Southern Areas
And though it was Johnsons Fault for not fixing any ****, I don't blame Grant, I just blame the idiots in his cabinent/positions.

Anywho, does anyone have a good idea in getting the Ruskies to become BFFs with the Americans?

Yeah prevent this from happening:
"Hello Grand Duke.
...
Now get the hell out of my house". :rolleyes:

They were already best friends for a while. Maybe just make relationships with Britain alot worse for both of them.
 

Onyx

Banned
Yeah:

America (Eagle): Hi Russia!
Russia (Bear): Hi America!
America: Can we buy Alaska?
Russia: Sure just-
Britain (Lion): RAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America:..... Dude, Britains an asshole
Russia: Yeah, lets beat him up
 
Yeah:

America (Eagle): Hi Russia!
Russia (Bear): Hi America!
America: Can we buy Alaska?
Russia: Sure just-
Britain (Lion): RAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America:..... Dude, Britains an asshole
Russia: Yeah, lets beat him up
That is pretty much what stopped the war of 1822 (war of 1812 round 2 w/e). :D

Anyways besides that during the Polish Uprising (which was also at the same time as the ACW) Russia really didnt want Britain to support the poles. Someone made a thread, and got flamed out about it but some people said that that could lead to a Russo-American alliance.
 
Yeah:

America (Eagle): Hi Russia!
Russia (Bear): Hi America!
America: Can we buy Alaska?
Russia: Sure just-
Britain (Lion): RAAAAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
America:..... Dude, Britains an asshole
Russia: Yeah, lets beat him up

Russia You yanks and your stupid ideas! Why the hell did we ever listen to you!;)
 
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